VMI (2025 - Q2)

Release Date: Jul 22, 2025

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Current Financial Performance

Valmont Industries Q2 2025 Highlights

$1.05 billion
Net Sales
+1%
$4.88
Adjusted EPS
$141.4 million
Adjusted Operating Income
-0.7%
30.7%
Gross Margin

Period Comparison Analysis

Net Sales

$1.05 billion
Current
Previous:$969.3 million
8.3% YoY

Operating Income - Infrastructure

$124.6 million
Current
Previous:$147.3 million
15.4% YoY

Operating Margin - Infrastructure

16.3%
Current
Previous:14.2%
14.8% YoY

Operating Income - Agriculture

$44.8 million
Current
Previous:$40 million
12% YoY

Operating Margin - Agriculture

15.6%
Current
Previous:14.3%
9.1% YoY

Diluted EPS

$4.88
Current
Previous:$4.91
0.6% YoY

Operating Cash Flow

$167.6 million
Current
Previous:$130.8 million
28.1% YoY

Key Financial Metrics

Profitability & Efficiency Ratios

30.7%
Gross Margin
13.5%
Operating Margin
18.2%
SG&A as % of Revenue
<1.0x
Net Debt Leverage
1.7x (2024 Q2)
Debt to Adjusted EBITDA

CapEx Investment Q2 2025

$32 million

Share Repurchase Q2 2025

$100 million

Dividends Paid Q2 2025

$13.6 million

Earnings Performance & Analysis

2025 Adjusted EPS vs Guidance

Actual:$4.88 (Q2 2025)
Estimate:$4.88 (Guidance Midpoint)
BEAT

Full Year Adjusted EPS Outlook

Actual:$17.50 to $19.50
Estimate:$18.50 (Midpoint)
BEAT

Financial Guidance & Outlook

2025 Net Sales Outlook

$4B to $4.2B

2025 Adjusted EPS Outlook

$17.50 to $19.50

Share Buyback Program

$700 million

Surprises

Nonrecurring Charges

$138.3 million

These actions resulted in $112 million of nonrecurring charges... Altogether, these items totaled $138.3 million, of which $105.5 million relates to our solar businesses, $23.8 million to access systems, and $9 million is within corporate and other businesses.

Net Sales Growth

$1.05 billion

Net sales of $1.05 billion increased 1% year over year. We achieved sales growth in both segments, led by utility, telecommunications, and international agriculture.

Telecom Sales Growth

40%

Our telecommunication business saw strong sales growth of more than 40%, driven by successful product alignment with key carrier programs.

Solar Sales Decline

50%

Solar sales declined nearly 50%, reflecting lower volumes.

Operating Cash Flow

$167.6 million

Operating cash flows reached a very healthy $167.6 million, a tribute to the Valmont team's focus on cash and working capital management.

Impact Quotes

We see a clear path to deliver $500 to $700 million in revenue growth and $7 to $12 in additional EPS over the next three to four years.

Our $100 million growth CapEx target for this year is on track, focused on scaling utility operations and improving workflow across the footprint.

With an infrastructure backlog approaching $1.5 billion, demand for our products continues to outpace current capacity.

Telecom came in very strong this quarter, over 40% year over year, driven by carrier technology upgrades and 5G densification.

Adjusted operating income was $141.4 million or 13.5% of net sales, a 70 basis point decrease from prior, due to lower international infrastructure profitability.

We have intentionally aligned our unique strengths with secular megatrends including energy transition, infrastructure investment, and global demand for food security.

We expect early benefits from AI and operational improvements to be reflected in our fourth quarter financials.

We are piloting AI at eight of our infrastructure facilities, scaling throughput without scaling costs.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Valmont decided to exit the North American solar market due to regulatory uncertainty, environment, and unprofitable scale.
  • The company remains in Italy and Brazil, where the solar businesses are profitable and aligned with their infrastructure strategy.
  • The exit from North American solar was fully executed, with the business now managed with discipline and focus, managing capacity and demand carefully.
  • Valmont recorded $112 million of nonrecurring charges related to exiting unprofitable solar and downsizing access systems.
  • The charges included $91.3 million for asset impairments, $9.8 million for cash realignment, and $10.9 million for other costs.
  • These actions are expected to generate $22 million in annualized savings starting in 2026, with $8 million in savings in the second half of 2025.
  • Valmont is capitalizing on an unprecedented utility investment cycle, with US CapEx expected to exceed $212 billion in 2025, driven by electrification, data centers, and grid modernization.
  • Backlog in infrastructure is approaching $1.5 billion, indicating demand outpacing capacity.
  • The company is investing in capacity expansion, automation, and AI to meet this demand, with early benefits expected in Q4.
  • Valmont has reshaped its agriculture business to be more resilient and globally balanced, with a focus on international markets like Brazil and EMEA.
  • International sales increased 22%, driven by higher volumes and improved profitability, especially in EMEA.
  • The company is deploying digital tools like e-commerce and remote management apps to enhance aftermarket revenues and operational efficiency.
  • Valmont is piloting AI at eight infrastructure facilities to scale throughput without increasing costs.
  • The company is investing in smarter scheduling, data analytics, and digital platforms like Accents 365 to improve efficiency and customer service.
  • International margins have improved over the past two years due to factory improvements and focus on large projects.
  • Brazil and EMEA are closing the margin gap with North America, with Brazil and North America expected to be at parity and EMEA slightly below in the future.
  • Telecom sales grew over 40%, driven by 5G upgrades and spectrum deployment, supported by product alignment with carrier programs.
  • T&D segment is expected to grow in excess of double digits in the second half, supported by broad demand across transmission, distribution, and substations.
  • Valmont is leveraging megatrends such as energy transition, electrification, infrastructure investment, and food security to support long-term growth.
  • The company has a clear roadmap to deliver $500-$700 million revenue growth and $7-$12 EPS over three to four years, driven by capacity expansion, innovation, and strategic resource allocation.
  • Valmont is focusing on improving operational efficiency through organizational realignment, automation, and AI tools.
  • Corporate costs are targeted to reduce from 3% to below 2% of sales over time, with ongoing investments in technology and innovation.
  • Valmont extended its $800 million revolving credit facility for five years, maintaining strong liquidity.
  • The company is deploying capital toward organic growth, tuck-in acquisitions, share buybacks ($700 million program), and dividend increases.
  • Cash flow management remains a priority, with $167.6 million operating cash flow in Q2 and net debt leverage below one time.

Key Insights:

  • Adjusted diluted EPS guidance raised to $17.50 to $19.50, midpoint increased to $18.50 from $18.
  • All known tariffs are included in the outlook and expected to be profit neutral.
  • Full-year 2025 net sales are projected between $4 billion and $4.2 billion.
  • Lighting and transportation segment expected to improve with leadership changes and steady DOT spend despite current softness.
  • Revenue and EPS growth of $500 to $700 million and $7 to $12 respectively are targeted over the next three to four years.
  • Telecom business expected to maintain strong growth with close to double-digit growth in Q4 and momentum into 2026.
  • The company expects to unlock $350 to $400 million incremental capacity and revenue from operational improvements and AI initiatives, with early benefits in Q4 2025.
  • Utility segment expected to grow strongly with infrastructure backlog near $1.5 billion and double-digit growth in second half of 2025.
  • Completed realignment work including exiting unprofitable solar parts and restructuring access systems, resulting in $112 million nonrecurring charges.
  • Executing $700 million share buyback program and planning consistent annual dividend increases.
  • Focusing on corporate cost reduction from about 3% of sales to under 2% over time through efficiency and AI deployment.
  • Investing $100 million growth CapEx in 2025 to scale utility operations and improve workflow.
  • Launched digital e-commerce platform and Accents 365 remote management app to enhance agriculture aftermarket and grower efficiency.
  • Piloting AI at eight infrastructure facilities to increase throughput without scaling costs.
  • Reduced management layers and integrated manufacturing operations into segments to improve agility and accountability.
  • Streamlined agriculture business with dedicated aftermarket resources and stronger international project pipeline, including $20 million awarded in Africa.
  • CEO Avner Applbaum emphasized alignment with secular megatrends like energy transition, infrastructure investment, and food security.
  • CFO Tom Liguori noted disciplined capital allocation balancing reinvestment and shareholder returns, with strong cash flow and liquidity.
  • Leadership changes in lighting and transportation aim to improve execution and prepare for demand recovery.
  • Management highlighted the importance of customer alignment and innovation to maintain competitive advantage and pricing power.
  • Realignment actions were difficult but necessary to position the company for scalable growth and long-term value creation.
  • Strong confidence expressed in utility and telecom markets driven by electrification, data center expansion, and broadband growth.
  • The company is committed to sustainability as a strategic advantage and core to its purpose of conserving resources and improving life.
  • The company’s strategy focuses on simplifying the business, focusing where it leads, flattening organization, and directing resources to high-return areas.
  • International agriculture margins have improved and are approaching parity with North America; EMEA margins are closing the gap.
  • Lighting and transportation segment faced softness but leadership changes and DOT spending provide optimism for recovery.
  • Roadmap to $500-$700 million revenue growth and $7-$12 EPS increase is expected to be smooth, with improvements starting in Q4 2025 and stepping up in 2026.
  • SG&A increase in Q2 due to variable selling costs, IT and AI investments, and accounting items; expected to normalize in second half of 2025.
  • Solar business exit in North America due to lack of scale and regulatory uncertainty; remaining solar operations in Italy and Brazil are profitable or managed with discipline.
  • Steel tariffs have been managed well with stable pricing and supply chain adjustments, no negative demand impact observed.
  • Telecom growth driven by 5G densification, fixed wireless access, and broad product alignment with carrier programs; strong growth expected through 2026.
  • Utility segment backlog near $1.5 billion supports confidence in infrastructure wave; capacity expansion and AI initiatives underway.
  • Forward-looking statements include risks such as market conditions, raw material availability, geopolitical risks, and regulatory changes.
  • Net working capital days improved significantly from 118 in Q1 2024 to below 90 in Q2 2025.
  • Nonrecurring charges totaled $138.3 million related to solar, access systems, and corporate actions.
  • Share repurchases totaled $100 million in Q2 at an average price of $279.35 per share.
  • Sustainability report published highlighting team accomplishments and strategic focus on resource conservation.
  • The company extended its revolving credit facility for five years, maintaining $800 million liquidity.
  • The company is focused on balancing cost reduction with investments in innovation and customer solutions.
  • The company is piloting AI and automation to improve scheduling, throughput, and operational efficiency.
  • Agriculture segment is building resilience with technology advancements and aftermarket growth despite North American softness.
  • Capital allocation strategy includes tuck-in acquisitions to complement core business growth.
  • Leadership emphasizes the importance of customer-centric innovation to maintain pricing power and competitive differentiation.
  • Telecom business, while smaller, is highly margin accretive and strategically aligned with broadband expansion trends.
  • The company is actively managing portfolio to focus on profitable, scalable businesses aligned with long-term megatrends.
  • The company is leveraging AI not only in operations but also in corporate functions to improve productivity and decision-making.
  • The company’s backlog and customer engagement provide tangible evidence supporting confidence in future growth.
  • The company’s utility business is benefiting from a historic investment cycle with US CapEx expected to exceed $212 billion in 2025.
Complete Transcript:
VMI:2025 - Q2
Operator:
Greetings. Welcome to Valmont Industries, Inc. Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one brief follow-up question. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn this conference over to your host, Renee Campbell, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasurer. Ms. Campbell, you may begin. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Renee Ca
Renee Campbell:
With me today are Avner Applbaum, President and Chief Executive Officer, Tom Liguori, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Tim Francis, Chief Accounting Officer. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release announcing our second quarter 2025 results. Both the release and the presentation for today's webcast are available on the Investors page of our website at valmont.com. A replay of the webcast will be available later this morning. To stay updated with Valmont Industries, Inc.'s latest news releases and information, please sign up for email alerts on our investor website. We'll begin today's call with prepared remarks, then open it up for questions. Please note that this call is subject to our disclosure on forward-looking statements, which is outlined on slide two of the presentation, and will be read in full after Q&A. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Avner.
Avner Applbaum:
Thank you, Renee. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'd like to start with second quarter highlights and key messages summarized on Slide four. We delivered solid operational results this quarter, reflecting the dedication and resilience of our global Valmont team. We want to thank our employees for living our core values and delivering for our customers every day. Sales grew modestly, driven by strength in utility, telecom, and international agriculture. Our teams executed well, driving volume growth in key markets while advancing our long-term strategy. We remain deeply confident in the end markets we serve, which are supported by powerful long-term growth drivers. Secular megatrends, including the energy transition, infrastructure investment, and global demand for food security, offer significant potential for our business. We have intentionally aligned our unique strengths with these trends. When I became CEO two years ago, we laid out a clear strategy to simplify the business, focus where we lead, flatten the organization, and direct our resources to the areas with the best long-term returns. That framework has not changed, and we've executed consistently against it. This quarter represents the final step in the realignment work we began in July 2023. We exited unprofitable parts of solar, took a hard look at access systems, and completed targeted changes across the company, removing layers, reassigning talent, and sharpening accountability. These actions resulted in $112 million of nonrecurring charges, but they were decisions that are fully aligned with the strategy we set from the start. Having now finished the realignment work, we have the right structure in place, and our teams are focused. We're in a stronger position to scale and execute more effectively and drive long-term value creation. With that foundation set, we're focused on what's next: accelerating growth, driving greater efficiency, and advancing innovation to deliver greater value to our customers. That mindset is already part of how we operate, from adapting to changing market needs to evolving our products. With a strong balance sheet and track record of consistent cash flow generation, we're investing in organic high-return initiatives that enhance customer impact and improve returns. Turning to slide five, I'd like to provide an update on the progress we've made on our 2025 critical objectives. In utility, we're capturing the infrastructure wave. We're scaling capacity, staying close to the long-term customer plans, and improving execution. This is a business that's growing, and we're investing to stay ahead. With an infrastructure backlog approaching $1.5 billion, demand for our products continues to outpace current capacity. We're operating in an unprecedented utility investment cycle. According to a Jefferies Utilities report issued in June, US CapEx is expected to exceed $212 billion this year, a 22% increase driven by electrification, data center expansion, and grid modernization. The next five-year cycle is also accelerating to record levels. Capital is shifting toward transmission and generation, while distribution and substation spending remain strong. We're well-positioned to meet this demand with our engineered structures and coating services. Our $100 million growth CapEx target for this year is on track, focused on scaling utility operations and improving workflow across the footprint. At the same time, we're addressing areas that require operational improvements. In lighting and transportation, we've made leadership and organizational changes to improve performance. This is a broad business with diverse end markets, some of which are experiencing softer demand. However, we remain confident in the long-term fundamentals. Our focus is on improving execution so that we're ready to capture growth as demand returns. Second, in agriculture, we've reshaped the business to be more resilient and globally balanced. We've streamlined the team, added dedicated aftermarket resources, and we're executing well across key international markets. Brazil is a very important market for us and is showing signs of stabilization. Our international project pipeline is stronger than ever. The EMEA region continues to show momentum, and we recently were awarded $20 million of project work in Africa. While North America remains challenged, we're building for the long term with better agility, stronger margins, and technology advancements for our growers. And across the company, we're focused on doing more with what we have. From smarter scheduling to piloting AI at eight of our infrastructure facilities, we're scaling throughput without scaling costs. We're looking across systems, teams, and assets to make sure we're running as efficiently as we can and setting ourselves up to support growth without adding complexity. This also helps us execute with focus and invest in high-value innovation to best serve our customers. Finally, Valmont's strength lies in our people, their resilience, values, and commitment to a strong safety culture. Last month, we published our tenth annual sustainability report, highlighting many of our team's accomplishments. Sustainability remains central to our purpose of conserving resources and improving life and a strategic competitive advantage that continues to shape our business. In summary, we've taken the hard steps, refined the portfolio, realigned the structure, and tightened our focus. I'm proud of how this team has advanced and sharpened our strategy over the past year. We're executing with more precision, more discipline, and clear returns. Now we move forward from a stronger foundation. Our priorities are the same, but our ability to deliver on them is better than ever. I'll now turn the call over to Tom to discuss our second quarter financial results and updated outlook.
Tom Liguori:
Thank you, Avner. Good morning, everyone. Turning to slide seven, I'd like to expand on the actions and associated one-time non-GAAP items recorded this quarter. Deliberate steps were taken to better align the organization and drive growth and profitability in the coming years. We reduced our headcount primarily in solar and North America agriculture to reflect near-term market conditions. We transitioned many of these team members to support growth in infrastructure and international agriculture. We reduced management layers across both segments and corporate to enable quicker decisions and greater agility. Manufacturing operations were integrated into the segments to drive accountability and improve collaboration between commercial and operations teams. In addition to the realignment, we further refined our portfolio. As you know, solar has been a growth headwind for some time, compounded by recent changes in government policy and regulation. Therefore, the leadership team decided to exit North America and significantly downsize our solar operations in Brazil for both our infrastructure and agriculture segments. The second portfolio action was within lighting and transportation. We reviewed the performance and outlook for the APAC Access Systems business, leading to a goodwill impairment tied to the revised financial outlook. All in, these actions resulted in the following nonrecurring financial impacts: non-cash long-lived asset impairment charges of $91.3 million, including $71.1 million for goodwill and intangibles related to the Solar and Access Systems businesses, and $20.2 million for other assets that will no longer be utilized. Cash realignment charges of $9.8 million, primarily severance, and other nonrecurring charges of $10.9 million, primarily costs to fulfill contractually required payments for system licenses no longer needed, and an estimated liability to exit a joint venture ag solar business. Described in the footnote on pages two and five of the press release, as a change in redemption value of redeemable non-controlling interest. Altogether, these items totaled $138.3 million, of which $105.5 million relates to our solar businesses, $23.8 million to access systems, and $9 million is within corporate and other businesses. As a result of these actions, we expect annualized savings of $22 million in 2026, with $8 million realized in the second half of 2025. Turning to slide eight and our second quarter results on a GAAP basis, net sales of $1.05 billion increased 1% year over year. We achieved sales growth in both segments, led by utility, telecommunications, and international agriculture. Gross profit margin of 30.6% was slightly below the prior year due to lower international infrastructure profitability from lower sales. SG&A expenses were $191.7 million or 18.2% of revenues. GAAP operating income was $29.3 million or 2.8% of net sales. Below the line, interest expense decreased due to lower debt. GAAP diluted loss per share was $1.53. Turning to slide nine, my comments going forward will focus on the adjusted results as outlined in the press release and in the Reg G disclosure in the presentation appendix. Net sales were $1.05 billion, adjusted gross profit margin was 30.7%, total SG&A expense was $181.4 million, an increase of $8.4 million due to higher variable selling costs and investments in IT and AI-related technologies. We expect SG&A to be in the mid-$170 million per quarter in the second half of 2025. Adjusted operating income was $141.4 million or 13.5% of net sales, a 70 basis point decrease from prior, and adjusted EPS declined slightly to $4.88. Both declined due to lower international infrastructure profitability. Moving to our segment results on slide ten, infrastructure sales of $765.5 million were similar to last year. Growth in utility and telecom was largely offset by lower sales in solar, along with softer demand in lighting and transportation. Utility sales increased 5.4%, driven by higher volumes and pricing actions that more than offset lower steel cost pass-throughs. Lower sales in lighting and transportation and coatings were primarily due to softness in international markets. Our telecommunication business saw strong sales growth of more than 40%, driven by successful product alignment with key carrier programs. Solar sales declined nearly 50%, reflecting lower volumes. Adjusted operating income was $124.6 million, operating margin decreased 130 basis points to 16.3% of net sales. The decline was due to lower international profitability, primarily due to lower sales. Turning to slide eleven, second quarter agricultural sales of $289.4 million increased 2.7%, reflecting strong execution in key international markets. In North America, irrigation equipment volumes declined due to fewer storm-related replacement sales compared to last year, along with continued market softness. International sales increased 22%, led by strength in the EMEA region, with higher volumes across all regions, including Brazil. Adjusted operating income increased to $44.8 million or 15.6% of net sales, mostly driven by improved profitability in EMEA and lower SG&A in North America. Moving to slide twelve, for cash, liquidity, and capital allocation, operating cash flows reached a very healthy $167.6 million, a tribute to the Valmont team's focus on cash and working capital management. Net working capital days have steadily decreased from 118 days in Q1 of 2024 to below 90 this fourth quarter. We ended the quarter with $208.5 million of cash and no borrowings under our revolving credit facility. As of July 10th, we extended the facility for another five years, maintaining $800 million in available liquidity to support our growth and capital allocation strategies. Thank you, Valmont treasury team, for successfully leading the extension. Our net debt leverage remains below one time. We remain committed to a balanced approach to capital allocation, to deploy approximately half toward reinvesting in our businesses and half to shareholder returns. In the second quarter, we invested $32 million in CapEx, primarily for growth. We also returned $13.6 million through dividends and repurchased $100 million of shares at an average price of $279.35. Turning to our updated 2025 outlook on slide thirteen, net sales are projected to be in the range of $4 billion to $4.2 billion. We're raising our full-year adjusted diluted earnings per share expectations to a range of $17.50 to $19.50, increasing the midpoint to $18.50 from $18. Regarding tariffs, all known tariffs are included in our outlook. Moving to slide fourteen, we have a clear roadmap to grow our business, driving revenue and EPS growth. While we've discussed elements of this strategy in recent investor conferences, in light of our second quarter actions, Avner and I want to reinforce the key value drivers supporting our long-term strategy and five critical objectives. First is catching the infrastructure wave. Utility represents about 35% of total company revenue, with growth expected to accelerate and scaling our capacity to meet sustained customer demand for high-quality, on-time delivery of engineered structures. As we speak, our teams are installing brake presses and welding equipment in multiple facilities, and our operations and AI teams are improving scheduling for greater throughput. These initiatives are unlocking $350 to $400 million in incremental capacity and revenue. We expect early benefits to be reflected in our fourth quarter financials. Second, in agriculture, we're helping farmers work smarter and operate more efficiently. Our new digital e-commerce platform makes it easier for farmers to order parts directly from the field, improving repair speed and helping us grow our aftermarket revenues. We also recently launched Accents 365, a unified remote management app that includes features like tire pressure monitoring, with more capabilities on the way. Third, we're taking a disciplined approach to resource allocation. Internally, our corporate cost team is driving a focused effort to improve efficiency. Over time, we believe we can reduce corporate costs from about 3% of sales to under 2%. While at the same time, we're deploying AI tools and data analytics to speed execution and improve productivity. Externally, we're deploying capital to drive shareholder value. We're pursuing tuck-in acquisitions tied to our core business, executing on our $700 million share buyback program, and planning for consistent annual dividend increases. Bringing it all together, we see a clear path to deliver $500 to $700 million in revenue growth and $7 to $12 in additional EPS over the next three to four years. These drivers build on the strength of our existing business and position Valmont to deliver sustainable long-term shareholder value. Before we close, we want to recognize and thank the entire Valmont team. This was a quarter of significant actions and accounting decisions, yet the team remained focused on our value drivers: satisfying customers, delivering revenue growth, disciplined execution, and generating exceptional cash flows. With that, I will now turn the call over to Renee.
Renee Campbell:
Thank you, Tom. At this time, the operator will open up the call for questions.
Operator:
Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys to allow for as many questions as possible. One moment while we pull up for questions. Our first question is from Nathan Jones with Stifel. Please proceed.
Adam Farley:
Yeah. Thank you. Good morning. This is Adam Farley on Nathan. Morning. I wanted to start on the solar business. Maybe you could talk about the decision to exit these pieces, what's left in the portfolio, and why being in solar at all is the right idea going forward.
Avner Applbaum:
Well, thank you for your question. You know, as I mentioned, we are done with all the portfolio actions that we've taken. We decided to exit the North American Solar market due to the environment. It really no longer supported the scale for the returns that we expect. Add to that the regulatory uncertainty was already a very competitive fragmented auto market, so we decided and we were not able to provide strong returns. So we exited the market. Now we have stayed in Italy. In Italy, it's a very different story. Our Italy solar business is profitable. It's supported by EU funding. It benefits from very strong brand equity, leadership position, we have strong engineering depth, and strong customer track. So it is also a market that we know very well and we continue to serve effectively. We've also decided to stay in Brazil. Now Brazil is more volatile. So what we've done there, we built a lean and scalable platform. And we do have a meaningful share there. So we're managing this business with discipline, we're monitoring the energy prices, the interest rates, and we're basically aligning our capacity and demand. So to sum it up, you know, both of these businesses are aligned with our infrastructure strategy, and we're running them with focus and return discipline.
Adam Farley:
Okay. Thank you for that color. Does exiting the solar business add to EPS assuming it was lower or loss-making?
Tom Liguori:
Yes. It does. It was operating at a slight loss, and it will be profitable in Q3 and Q4.
Adam Farley:
Okay. Thank you. And then maybe shifting gears to recent impact from steel prices. How does the impact of the increased tariff on steel impact your outlook? Are there any further price increases that are necessary at the current price level?
Avner Applbaum:
You know, when we look at pricing, the way we look at pricing is it's the value that we provide to our customers. Right? And there's strong value, especially in this dynamic environment due to our strong innovative solutions, our engineering expertise, we have strong manufacturing footprint and capabilities, and a strong dealer network. So overall, we have a strong value proposition. Now, of course, pricing is part of the equation, and we do look at our cost as well. But the other important is our products provide strong ROI to our customers if it's our engineering structures, if it's our pivots, they provide strong ROI and they'll support their long-term strategy. So from that point of view, we continue to take pricing leadership. And we haven't seen any impact on the demand. Tom, you want to just maybe add a little bit of flavor on the actions that we're taking?
Tom Liguori:
Sure, Avner. Thank you. You know, steel, the pricing is stable, which is very encouraging for us. And you may be referring to the increases in tariffs on steel. We are using primarily US poured and melted steel and therefore, we feel in a good position. In tariffs in general, I would add, you know, keep the term profit neutral. And that's what we see right now. That's primarily because we have 24 plants in the US serving our US customers. I also wanted to say, you know, our team managed it very, very well. In addition to pricing that Avner talked about, it was about changing our supply chain, changing sourcing, making more things in the US. So steel, we feel very good about where it is today.
Adam Farley:
Great. Thank you.
Operator:
Thank you. Our next question is from Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed.
Chris Moore:
Hey. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking a couple. Yeah, maybe pick up on where Tom left off on the roadmap adding, you know, $500 to $700 million revenue, $7 to $12 EPS. Obviously, lots can change over the next three to four years. But sitting here today, is it likely, you know, is that back half loaded, or is it reasonably smooth to get there?
Tom Liguori:
No. It's smooth, and it is definitely not back-end loaded. We expect to start seeing some of these improvements in revenue and EPS in Q4. We expect to step up in 2026. So we feel very confident about it, Chris.
Avner Applbaum:
Yeah. And, you know, Chris, let me add, a lot of these initiatives that we're taking to drive the $7 to $12 EPS are really grounded in some of these strong megatrends that we're seeing in our market. If we start with the catch the infrastructure wave, we're seeing strong market demand driven by really undeniable powerful megatrends. Think energy transition, electrification, load growth. I mentioned that Jefferies report earlier this morning, which is another data point. So we're seeing very strong demand in the utility space. And we've already taken actions to Tom's point around investing in our capacity and capability, anything from capital to automation, AI, and talent. So we're well on the way in our investments. We've managed that very tightly. We have KPIs aligned with that. And we're very confident in our ability to drive the utility space as well as agriculture. We're focusing on areas like aftermarket and ag tech that provide a very strong value proposition to the grower ultimately. Having the grower in mind, how do we help them achieve their goals, their profitability levels, and we have initiatives in place mentioned earlier around our e-commerce platform, our Accents 365, Icon, etc. So even in a tough ag market, we're able to scale and provide those benefits to the growers. So overall, we are confident in our ability to execute on these plans and ultimately provide strong shareholder value.
Chris Moore:
Got it. Really helpful. Maybe my follow-up is you were just talking a little bit about Ag. And I know you don't break out the margin separately between international and North America, but can you maybe talk a little bit about on a relative basis where the margins in international are now versus maybe a year or two ago and where they could be in a couple of years, you know, given some of the ag tech, etc. Just trying to understand the drivers.
Tom Liguori:
That's a good question. So the margins in international are improved from where they were a year or two ago. You know, the international teams both in Brazil and in EMEA have spent a lot of time on their factories. We were just down in Brazil this quarter, and it's very clean. It's got a great flow. These are things that help contribute to better margins. You know, in our EMEA business, they're very focused on large projects, and we need to be very profitable on these large projects. And there's been a lot of actions taken that give us great confidence going forward. Chris, I hope that answers your question.
Chris Moore:
Yeah. It does. I guess just on a relative basis, a couple of years out, international versus North America, you see them at parity. You see one of them still being, you know, meaningfully above?
Tom Liguori:
Yeah. So Brazil and North America at parity and EMEA probably slightly below, but they've much closer closing the gap versus a couple of years ago.
Chris Moore:
Perfect. I will leave it there. Thanks, guys.
Tom Liguori:
Thanks, Chris.
Operator:
Our next question is from Jean Velez with D. A. Davidson. Please proceed.
Jean Velez:
Hi. Good morning. Thank you for the time. Morning.
Tom Liguori:
Morning.
Jean Velez:
In telecom, can you talk about the visibility you have for the rest of the year? And expanding on that, would you provide just a look at whether there's further potential strength in 2026?
Avner Applbaum:
Well, thank you for the question. I'll start off with, you know, telecom is not a platform business. But having said that, telecom came in very strong this quarter, you know, over 40% year over year. And that was really driven by, you know, increased carrier and tower activity, you know, specifically around carrier technology upgrades, additional spectrum deployment, so particularly tied to 5G densification and fixed wireless access. And these are all components of the broader digital infrastructure expansion. But, you know, beyond what's really important here is that beyond the market momentum, the growth reflects our competitive position. You know, we provide engineering support, we have fast and reliable turnaround, we have integrated solutions that really, if you think about the customer, it makes their execution much easier. We're expecting another strong quarter in Q3. Some of that is we do have some easier comps there. And Q4 is going to be more normalized growth, but still very strong, close to double-digit growth in that business. So overall, the carriers are going to continue to spend. We are aligned very well, and we should take that momentum into 2026. So telecom is a smaller part of our portfolio, but it is very margin accretive. And it's strategically aligned with the long-term trends in broadband and connectivity.
Jean Velez:
Thank you. Could you perhaps just expand a little bit on what these product alignments with the key carrier programs are?
Avner Applbaum:
Yeah. So, you know, when we talk about, you know, I'll give you an example, you know, fixed wireless access is a good example. But overall, right, as they work on the whole spectrum of deployment in the mid cell, small cell, you know, we have a very strong product offering to support both the carriers and the tower providers, to make sure they have all the engineered solutions they need to support them in any part of their deployment. So as I mentioned, you know, we're aligned with their programs with a broad product offering. Anything from macro towers, concealment solutions, components that go on towers, if it's antenna mounts, etc. So we're very broad in this space and provide them a strong set of solutions.
Jean Velez:
That makes sense. Thank you so much. And if I could just sneak one last one. For T&D, I just wanted to perhaps get a sense of whether you expect greater second half versus 2024 second half. And just perhaps a few more comments on what aspects of that business segment are driving this growth? Is it distributions or substations? Yeah, that would be great.
Avner Applbaum:
Okay. Sure. So overall, I just mentioned, right, it is supported by very strong megatrends, and it's really across the board. Right? Transmission is the largest part of our business, but the spend is in transmission, it's in distribution, it's in substation. We're seeing strength in all of these three areas, and we expect that to continue for the foreseeable future. We'll continue to invest in our capacity, and all that will support a very strong second half. We're going to grow in excess of double digits in the second half of the year. So we're very pleased with how this is shaping out. In fact, last week, we had the strongest production week ever for Valmont. So it is very encouraging to see, and the future looks bright in this area.
Jean Velez:
Alright. I appreciate the color there. Hop back in the line. Thank you so much.
Operator:
Our next question is from Jon Braatz with Kansas City Capital. Please proceed.
Jon Braatz:
Good morning, everyone. Tom, could you go over the SG&A cost increase in the quarter? Can you give us a little bit more details of why it was so high?
Tom Liguori:
A lot of movements, Jon. So first, I would say Q3 and Q4 should be back to the mid-$170 million range. You know, we did have a year-over-year, we had higher variable selling costs, and some higher spending in IT. I would say that is a one-time type item. You know, we're putting a focus on better systems and using AI technology for a lot of our scheduling and back-office functions. There were also some, you know, accounting-type things. We have a deferred compensation plan. And you know, the accounting is a little tricky in that the gains in that fund show up as an accounting SG&A expense. That's offset below the line that you'll see. There's just a lot of stuff going on, but you know, we feel we have a good handle. We feel with the initiatives we have going on that there would be steadily decreasing as a percent of revenue going into 2026, and please expect $170 million for Q3 and Q4.
Avner Applbaum:
Let me just add on the SG&A. Tom made very good points there, but as we move forward, we have a lot of initiatives to improve our efficiency in that space, which really allows us to keep on investing around tools such as AI, which we discussed, innovation, etc. So we're really managing that to both reduce our cost as well as provide room to invest in our customers.
Jon Braatz:
Okay. And Tom, I think you mentioned that there's some, as you look ahead, maybe some realignment costs associated with North American irrigation. Are we talking headcount reduction or anything like that?
Tom Liguori:
Yeah. So that's been completed. And the cost to do that is in our Q2 financials. So you should have some pretty clean financials going forward, with improving revenues and improving margins.
Jon Braatz:
Okay. Alright. Thank you very much.
Operator:
Our next question is from Brian Drab with William Blair. Please proceed.
Brian Drab:
Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I just want to start with a high-level question. We talked a lot today about the wave of demand coming in infrastructure. I was just wondering if you could, you know, talk a little bit more about what signs you're seeing, what conversations you're having, what projects you're seeing develop that give you the confidence to add, you know, it sounds like you're adding about 30% to your capacity in transmission and distribution. I know it's more than, you know, just a report from an investment bank and other things, but it just like, if you could give us some more tangible signs that this wave is really coming in the next year or two for you, that would be great.
Avner Applbaum:
Yeah. Of course. Well, thank you for the question. And so, of course, there's a lot of indicators and reports around, you know, the strength in that market and energy transition. But, of course, that's not how we make decisions. We are very close to the customer. We're the leader in that space. We have discussions with our customers on a daily basis to align with their long strategic goals. So we are linked with them as they move forward and put their capital plans and they work on their strategy, they come to us to help them provide strong solutions, innovative solutions around how to support them with our very large footprint, our large capabilities and capacities around transmission, substation, around our steel, concrete, composites. So we're there. We hear the voice of the customer, which gives us a high level of confidence. Now one last point on that is, of course, we watch the entire market to assess the capacity. The whole industry is under capacity, so very mindful of that. So we're adding flexibility. Capital is one area. But the other area that we're doing is we're focusing on having the right talent, automation, and we're piloting AI, which I believe will be another strong driver for us to drive additional capacity and capability. So this is pretty tangible, and we have a $1.5 billion backlog, which is another indicator that goes into next year. And we feel pretty good about it.
Brian Drab:
Great. Yeah. Thanks, Avner. Can you also just talk about the outlook for the lighting and transportation business? You know, that it was down about 10%, I think, in the quarter. Is there something, you know, that you're seeing that could turn that around? Or is it still, you know, a lot of uncertainty with commercial construction, etc.? And is there any hope at this point that, you know, the infrastructure bill that's now, like, five years old is going to ultimately be a tailwind at all in that business? Thanks.
Avner Applbaum:
So I'll start off by saying, you know, L&T, it is a very profitable business. But, you know, this quarter results did come in below our expectations. We did see some softer market conditions in Australia, and we did have some execution challenges in both access and the US. But, you know, we took action. We simplified the structure. We aligned our operations and our commercial teams. And we strengthened some of our leadership. So these changes are in motion, and we should expect to see improved performance. Now as it relates to tailwinds that we're seeing in that market, the DOT spend remains strong even, you know, even with or without the IIGA bill. I mean, it keeps to be steady. There's a lot of need to rebuild infrastructure. So the DOT business remains strong. L&T today is weak, mostly due to single-family housing starts. But when you look into the horizon, there's a shortage of housing. So we do know that it will come back, and we scale and position this business to execute. So we will see steady performance over the next quarters and into 2026, driven by our execution efforts specifically.
Brian Drab:
Okay. And then one more quick one just for, I guess, you or Tom or anyone. But, you know, when you look at the longer-term guidelines that you gave us for the financial model today, I'm getting, you know, I think low double-digit earnings growth over that forecast period, that three to four years, maybe, like, 12%. Is that, I just want to make sure that I'm aligned with how you're thinking about it.
Tom Liguori:
Yes, Brian. You are aligned. Good seeing you at your conference.
Brian Drab:
Alright. Thank you, everyone. Have a good day.
Operator:
Thank you. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I will now turn the call over to Renee Campbell for closing remarks.
Renee Campbell:
Thank you for joining us today. A replay of this call will be available for playback on our website and by phone for the next seven days, and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.
Operator:
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Renee Campbell:
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Operator:
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