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ROG (2025 - Q2)

Release Date: Aug 01, 2025

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Current Financial Performance

Rogers Corp Q2 2025 Highlights

$203M
Sales
$0.34
Adjusted EPS
31.6%
Gross Margin
$23.9M
Adjusted EBITDA

Key Financial Metrics

Net Loss

$73.6M

Includes $71.8M impairment

Operating Cash Flow

$23M

Q2 2024

Capital Expenditures

$8.1M

Q2 2025

Cash Balance

$157M

End of Q2 2025

Share Repurchases

$28.1M

Q2 2025

Period Comparison Analysis

Sales

$203M
Current
Previous:$191M
6.3% QoQ

Sales

$203M
Current
Previous:$214M
5.1% YoY

Gross Margin

31.6%
Current
Previous:29.9%
5.7% QoQ

Gross Margin

31.6%
Current
Previous:34.1%
7.3% YoY

Adjusted EPS

$0.34
Current
Previous:$0.27
25.9% QoQ

Adjusted EPS

$0.34
Current
Previous:$0.69
50.7% YoY

EMS Revenue

$90M
Current
Previous:$83M
8.4% QoQ

AES Revenue

$109M
Current
Previous:$104M
4.8% QoQ

Earnings Performance & Analysis

Adjusted EBITDA

$23.9M

11.8% of sales

22%

Q2 Adjusted EPS vs Guidance

Actual:$0.34
Estimate:$0.27
BEAT

Restructuring Costs

$4.3M

Q2 2025

Impairment Charge

$71.8M

Curamik business

Financial Guidance & Outlook

Q3 Sales Guidance

$200M - $215M

~2% QoQ growth

Q3 Gross Margin Guidance

31.5% - 33.5%

90 bps improvement midpoint

Q3 Adjusted EPS Guidance

$0.50 - $0.90

Excludes restructuring

Restructuring Savings

$13M annual run rate

From Q4 2026

Full Year Tax Rate

~30%

Surprises

GAAP Net Loss

$73.6 million

On a GAAP basis, we recorded a net loss of $73.6 million or $4 per share. This was inclusive of $4.3 million of restructuring costs and a noncash impairment charge of $71.8 million related to goodwill and other intangible assets for our curamik business.

Adjusted EPS Increase

$0.34

Adjusted earnings per share in Q2 increased to $0.34 from the $0.27 in Q1 as a result of the improvement in sales and gross margin.

Q2 Gross Margin Improvement

+170 basis points

31.6%

Q2 gross margin was 31.6%, an increase of 170 basis points from the first quarter.

Sales Increase

+6.5%

6.5%

Sales increased by 6.5% from the prior quarter, led by a stronger industrial, portable electronics, A&D and ADAS end markets.

Impact Quotes

The recent leadership transition does not signal a major change in strategy or a deterioration of our competitive advantages. Rather, the changes are needed to increase the speed of execution, improve accountability and create a more dynamic organization to accelerate growth and improve margins.

We need to take our current lead times in some product lines and some plants from whatever today that number is and try to bring it down by 50% to 60%. So be able to deliver faster. If the customer needs it tomorrow, they need to have it tomorrow, not 3 or 4 days from now.

If we can execute that expansion, that utilization and benefit to the capacity that we already have invested in and have ready and available globally will assist us in expanding our margins versus how we're performing today with a challenged top line and performance level.

We are building a global company with local experts.

Our plans include ramping up manufacturing capabilities in China and reducing capacity in our European operations.

The cost savings associated with these actions are projected to be greater than $13 million on an annual run rate basis and are mainly cost of sales.

We continue to see good traction with additional design wins in the local market.

The discussion during this conference call will also reference certain financial measures that were not prepared in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Interim CEO Ali El-Haj emphasizes that recent leadership changes do not signal a major shift in strategy or loss of competitive advantages.
  • Focus on increasing execution speed, accountability, and organizational agility to accelerate growth and margins.
  • Ali's background in global manufacturing and growth delivery aims to leverage experience for company performance improvement.
  • Significant impact of evolving EV market on the AES curamik business, with regional growth divergence: downgrades in North America and Europe, rapid growth in China.
  • Market shifts have led to inventory corrections and reduced demand, prompting strategic capacity rebalancing.
  • Planned capacity ramp-up in China and reduction in Europe, with over $13 million in annualized cost savings from restructuring, to enhance competitiveness in local markets.
  • Shift in manufacturing capacity from Europe to China to align with regional EV growth trends.
  • Full-year savings from restructuring in Europe expected to exceed $13 million, with ramp-up of new Chinese facility in Suzhou.
  • Focus on local supply chains to gain competitive advantage and support growth in industrial, renewable energy, and EV markets.
  • Industrial markets showing signs of recovery, with opportunities in battery energy storage and data centers.
  • Aerospace and Defense (A&D) demand remains strong, with efforts to secure additional wins in U.S. and European primes.
  • ADAS market experiencing sustained growth with new regional wins and innovative laminant materials that reduce manufacturing costs.
  • Targeting a 50-60% reduction in product lead times to meet market demands for faster delivery.
  • Accelerating product development cycles to enable quicker prototypes and program wins.
  • Organizational restructuring aimed at faster decision-making and responsiveness to customer needs.
  • Q2 net loss of $73.6 million, including $4.3 million restructuring costs and a $71.8 million impairment charge on goodwill and intangible assets for curamik.
  • Adjusted EPS increased to $0.34 from $0.27 in Q1, driven by sales and gross margin improvements.
  • European operations' cease of production and underutilization at German factory contributed to gross margin pressures.
  • Announcement of additional $13 million in cost savings from European restructuring, complementing previous $32 million plan.
  • Focus on leveraging existing capacity and operational efficiencies to improve margins amid challenging top-line growth.
  • Cost savings are expected to be fully realized by Q4 2026, with incremental benefits over the next year.
  • Emphasis on strengthening design capabilities, technical support, and broad product portfolio to maintain customer trust.
  • Accelerating new product launches and next-generation solutions to stay competitive.
  • Faster delivery of prototypes and new programs to win more customer programs.
  • Prioritization of organic growth over M&A during transition, with ongoing evaluation of target opportunities.
  • Focus on executing growth opportunities in existing markets and new segments like renewable energy and data centers.
  • Building a more dynamic, responsive organization to capitalize on electrification and other megatrends.
  • Ali El-Haj highlights the importance of organizational agility, faster decision-making, and reducing lead times.
  • Specific goal to cut product lead times by 50-60% to meet customer expectations for rapid delivery.
  • Organizational restructuring to embed speed and responsiveness into daily operations.

Key Insights:

  • Adjusted operating expenses expected to decrease in Q3 due to lower compensation and discretionary spending.
  • Cost savings from restructuring projected to exceed $13 million annual run rate, incremental to previously announced $32 million savings.
  • EPS projected to range from breakeven to $0.40; adjusted EPS range $0.50 to $0.90.
  • Full run rate savings potential expected beginning Q4 2026.
  • Full year tax rate projected at approximately 30%.
  • Gross margin guidance for Q3 is 31.5% to 33.5%, a 90 basis point improvement at midpoint.
  • Q3 revenues expected between $200 million and $215 million, midpoint representing a 2% increase over Q2.
  • Restructuring costs related to curamik European operations expected between $12 million and $20 million from Q3 2025 to Q3 2026.
  • Share repurchases in Q3 expected to be similar to Q2, with approximately $76 million remaining on current program.
  • Cost containment and expense reduction initiatives ongoing to improve margins.
  • Curamik business impacted by regional EV market shifts; ramping up manufacturing in China and reducing European capacity to improve cost competitiveness.
  • Design wins in China for AMB substrates on key EV platform by leading Chinese power module manufacturer.
  • Efforts to address thermal, vibration management, and signal integrity challenges in data centers.
  • Focus on growth in industrial, aerospace & defense, ADAS, portable electronics, battery energy storage systems, and data centers.
  • Leadership transition aims to increase speed of execution, improve accountability, and create a more dynamic organization.
  • Local for local manufacturing strategy with Suzhou factory ramping up production and expanding opportunities in industrial and renewable energy markets.
  • Progress in ADAS with new design wins and introduction of laminant materials to reduce manufacturing costs.
  • Ali expresses confidence in the talent and commitment of Rogers employees globally.
  • Ali highlights the need to improve speed of execution, including reducing lead times by 50-60% to meet customer demands faster.
  • Ali outlines strategic priorities: operational improvements, speed of execution, and pursuing short- and mid-term growth opportunities.
  • Focus on accelerating new product development and integrating R&D with company operations for faster prototype delivery and program wins.
  • Interim CEO Ali El-Haj emphasizes that core capabilities and competitive advantages remain intact despite leadership changes.
  • Laura discusses margin expansion through top-line growth, utilization of existing capacity, and cost savings initiatives.
  • Laura Russell expresses confidence in Ali's leadership and partnership to drive improved shareholder results.
  • Management focused on simplifying operations, empowering employees, and accelerating growth through customer focus and new products.
  • Ali expects meaningful quarter-over-quarter top-line growth but adheres to company guidance limits.
  • Ali identifies top priorities as internal cost initiatives, operational improvements, and accelerating execution speed.
  • Craig confirms cumulative cost savings of approximately $45 million by 2026, including $13 million incremental from curamik restructuring.
  • Craig Ellis asks about specific examples of accelerating speed of execution; Ali cites reducing lead times by 50-60% and faster new product development integration.
  • Laura clarifies timing of $13 million savings to start crystallizing in Q4 2026, with updates to be provided if material changes occur.
  • Laura explains margin expansion depends on top-line growth, capacity utilization, and announced cost savings including restructuring.
  • Customer qualification work at Suzhou facility is ongoing with expected production ramp in coming months.
  • Non-GAAP financial measures are used and reconciled in the slide deck on the Investor Relations website.
  • Return of capital to shareholders remains a high priority balanced against trade dynamics and restructuring cash costs.
  • Statements include forward-looking disclaimers about uncertainties in economic conditions, market demands, and competitive factors.
  • Synergistic bolt-on M&A remains part of long-term strategy but focus currently on organic growth during leadership transition.
  • Tariff impacts on gross margin were relatively small in Q2 due to de-escalation of U.S.-China rates and mitigation efforts.
  • ADAS market growth driven by higher vehicle autonomy levels and new regional design wins.
  • Belgium facility ceased production in Q2, resulting in a material write-off impacting gross margin.
  • Data center sales are currently small but represent a growth opportunity with thermal and signal integrity solutions.
  • Employee development and commitment are emphasized as key strengths for future success.
  • Manufacturing footprint and technical expertise in every major region provide Rogers with global competitive advantages.
  • Power module manufacturers in Asia, especially China, have gained share from Rogers' traditional customers due to local market growth.
  • Pricing pressure on power substrates is consistent with typical auto industry trends amid intense global EV competition.
  • Regional EV market growth diverged sharply: downgraded projections and inventory corrections in North America and Europe versus strong growth in China.
Complete Transcript:
ROG:2025 - Q2
Operator:
Good afternoon. My name is Sean Mali, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Rogers Corporation Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. I will now turn the call over to your host, Mr. Steve Haymore, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Mr. Haymore, you may begin. Stephen
Stephen Haymore:
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Rogers Corporation Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. The slides for today's call can be found in the Investors section of our website, along with the news release that was issued earlier today. Please turn to Slide 2. Before we begin, I would like to note that statements in this conference call that are not strictly historical are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and should be considered as subject to the many uncertainties that exist in Rogers' operations and environment. These uncertainties include economic conditions, market demands and competitive factors. Such factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those in any forward- looking statement made today. Please turn to Slide 3. The discussion during this conference call will also reference certain financial measures that were not prepared in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. A reconciliation of those non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the slide deck for today's call, which are available on our Investor Relations website. With me today are Ali El-Haj, Interim President and CEO; Laura Russell, Senior Vice President and CFO; and Jeff Tsao, President of the Advanced Electronic Solutions business unit. I will now turn the call over to Ali.
Ali El-Haj:
Thank you, Steve. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. First, let me say that I appreciate the opportunity to step in as the Interim CEO role at Rogers. Over the past several months, I have directly observed the talent and capability of the global Rogers team as well as the many compelling opportunities that are ahead. There are challenges that need to be addressed. However, I'm excited to lead the organization and leverage my prior experience to help improve the company's performance. Over the past 30-plus years, I have gained significant experience leading both private equity-owned businesses and divisions of public companies. Like Rogers, these companies have been global manufacturers of highly engineered materials and products that have competed in similar end markets such as automotive and industrial. At each of these companies, I have demonstrated the ability to deliver growth in both sales and profitability. I look forward to working with the executive leadership team and employees globally to do the same at Rogers. Now turning to Slide 4. First, I want to emphasize to our shareholders that Rogers' core capability and strength are intact. The recent leadership transition does not signal a major change in strategy or a deterioration of our competitive advantages. Rather, the changes are needed to increase the speed of execution, improve accountability and create a more dynamic organization to accelerate growth and improve margins. Next, the performance at the AES curamik business has been affected in recent quarters by a rapidly evolving EV market. I will cover how we are responding to the market-driven changes facing this business and the actions we are taking to address them. Turning to our Q2 results. Our sales, gross margins and adjusted EPS were all within guidance ranges. Sales increased by 6.5% from the prior quarter, led by a stronger industrial, portable electronics, A&D and ADAS end markets. We look ahead to Q3, and we expect a more modest increase in revenue. However, gross margin and adjusted EPS should see stronger increases due to our ongoing cost and expense containment initiatives. Laura will cover both the Q2 financials and third quarter outlook in more details. Next, on Slide 5. Here are the key elements that provide a strong foundation for Rogers' future success. For many years, Rogers has been a trusted partner by leading OEMs globally. They value Rogers's design capabilities, proven reliability and broad portfolio of products. As a customer focused company, we will continue to build on these values in all areas of our business. Rogers' technical capabilities also remain a strength for the company. Our sales engineers and technical service organizations are critical to our success. They leverage their deep expertise to assist our customers in finding the right materials and solutions for their specific applications. Rogers' greatest strength is its employees. As I have had the opportunity to meet many of the Rogers' team around the world, I have been impressed at the talent and commitment they bring to work each and every day. We will continue to invest in the development of our employees and their success. Finally, Rogers' global reach and footprint continues to be a strength and social differentiation. We have manufacturing and technical expertise in every major region of the world to provide high levels of support to our customers. We are building a global company with local experts. Next on Slide 6, I'll highlight some of the changes happening in the global electric vehicle market. Over the past 18 months, we have seen a sharp divergence in the regional growth rates for EV production and sales. In North America and Europe, projections for EV growth have been downgraded over time by millions of units. This resulted in both a significant inventory correction and a stagnation of production levels in these regions. In contrast, EV production in China has remained on track to projections and unit volumes have grown rapidly. This change in regional growth rates has altered the competitive landscape for curamik's direct customers. Power module manufacturers in Asia and specifically China have capitalized on the fast growth in their home market and have been able to capture large share from Rogers' traditional customers. Also with intense global EV competition and consistent with typical trends in the auto industry, power substrates are facing pricing pressure. As a result of these market changes, we experienced lower demand than originally forecasted, and we are adjusting the curamik business accordingly. Turning to Slide 7. In support of our local for local manufacturing strategy, we are rebalancing our capacity between Europe and China. As recently announced, we are taking meaningful actions to rightsize the curamik business. With lower growth in the EV market outside of China, it is necessary that we have a cost competitive footprint in each region. Our plans include ramping up manufacturing capabilities in China and reducing capacity in our European operations. The full year run rate savings from these actions are projected to be in excess of $13 million. Our Suzhou factory combined with a localized supply chain will afford us a global competitive advantage. Customer qualification work at this facility is continuing and we expect to ramp up production in the coming months. We continue to see good traction with additional design wins in the local market. Indeed, in the second quarter, our AMB substrates were designed into a key EV platform by one of the leading Chinese power module manufacturers. The new facility also expands opportunities in industrial and renewable energy end markets. We continue to believe that electrification will provide compelling market opportunities ahead. Executing on this strategy will be key to competing effectively in all regions and enabling our growth in the EV market. We are also focused on growing across our other key end markets. Laura will highlight the growth we saw in Q2, especially in industrial, aerospace and defense and ADAS. In industrial, our primary markets are showing signs of recovery and remain a major focus area. We have identified several growth opportunities such as battery energy storage systems and data centers. In data center, sales today are small, but we are actively engaging with customers to help them address thermal, vibration management and signal integrity challenges. In A&D, we expect the demand from both U.S. and European primes will continue to be strong, and we are working to secure additional wins. In the ADAS market, there are compelling growth opportunities as vehicles move to higher levels of autonomy. We are making progress with design wins in new regions and on new introduced laminant materials, which build on our proven performance while reducing manufacturing costs for our customers. I'll turn it over to Laura to discuss our Q2 financial performance and Q3 outlook.
Laura Russell:
Thank you, Ali. Along with Rogers, Board of Directors and employees, I have a great deal of confidence in Ali's leadership abilities. I look forward to partnering together to drive improved results for our shareholders. I'll begin on Slide 8 with a summary of our Q2 results. Our key financial metrics for the quarter were within our previously announced guidance expectations. Sales were above our expected midpoint as we saw increased demand across most end markets. AES revenues increased by 4.6% and EMS revenues were 8.2% higher on a quarter-on-quarter basis. On a GAAP basis, we recorded a net loss of $73.6 million or $4 per share. This was inclusive of $4.3 million of restructuring costs and a noncash impairment charge of $71.8 million related to goodwill and other intangible assets for our curamik business. As Ali referenced, market and competitive dynamics in the EV space have rapidly shifted in recent quarters. These changes resulted in a lower outlook for curamik, which triggered the impairment. With the expansion of our local manufacturing capabilities and the cost reduction initiatives we announced, we believe that we can meaningfully improve the performance of curamik relative to current levels. Adjusted earnings per share in Q2 increased to $0.34 from the $0.27 in Q1 as a result of the improvement in sales and gross margin. On Slide 9, I'll discuss our sales for the second quarter by end market. Industrial markets had the strongest performance in Q2, increasing at a double-digit rate versus the prior quarter. General industrial sales in EMS increased across multiple product lines and regions. AES industrial sales were also higher with strong industrial robotic and automation demand. Aerospace and Defense sales were also higher in both AES and EMS operating segments. AES defense sales improved slightly and EMS commercial aerospace sales rebounded after a decline in Q1 related to customer order timing. ADAS sales increased for the third consecutive quarter as we continue to see traction with existing customers and grow business in Asia. Portable electronics also increased at double-digit rate versus the prior quarter, consistent with expected seasonal growth. Turning to Slide 10. Q2 gross margin was 31.6%, an increase of 170 basis points from the first quarter. The improvement in gross margin was driven by higher sales and favorable product mix. The impact of tariffs on gross margin was relatively small in Q2, given the de-escalation of rates between the U.S. and China in the quarter, and also as a result of our mitigation efforts. Gross margin was below the midpoint of our guidance range for 2 primary reasons. First, we had a material write-off related to our Belgium facility, which ceased production in Q2. Second, there was an impact from underutilization at our curamik, Germany factory, which we are addressing with our planned cost reduction actions. Adjusted EBITDA improved to $23.9 million or 11.8% of sales. This resulted from the higher gross margin, partially offset by an expected increase in adjusted operating expenses. Continuing to Slide 11, I'll next discuss cash utilization for the quarter. Cash at the end of the second quarter was $157 million, a decrease of $18.4 million from the end of the first quarter. Our cash balance decreased in Q2 due to $28.1 million of share repurchases. Capital expenditures were $8.1 million in Q2 and included ERP implementation, maintenance CapEx and residual investments in new capacity. Consistent with my comments last quarter, our investments in previously announced new capacity are largely complete. Naturally, we will continue to evaluate targeted investments to optimize our organic business performance. Returning capital to shareholders will remain a high priority. We will continue to balance this objective against evolving trade dynamics and cash costs for European restructuring activities. Based on our current view, we anticipate share repurchases in Q3 to be in a similar range to the second quarter. Following our purchases in Q2, we have approximately $76 million remaining on our existing share repurchase program. Synergistic bolt-on M&A continues to be part of our long-term strategy. However, during this transition, the focus will be on organic growth. With that said, evaluation of target opportunities with the right product and regional fit will continue to ensure we can capture any target meeting our investment criteria. Next on Slide 12, I'll review our guidance for the third quarter. Beginning with sales, we expect Q3 revenues to be between $200 million and $215 million, with the midpoint of the range a 2% increase in sales versus the previous quarter. The guidance assumes seasonally stronger portable electronics and a modest recovery in curamik for EV. ADAS sales are anticipated to be down from a seasonally lower auto production. We are guiding gross margin to be in the range of 31.5% to 33.5% or a 90-basis point improvement at the midpoint of our range. The guidance assumes that tariff policies in place today will remain unchanged for the quarter. The improvement in our forecasted gross margin for Q3 is due to volume and product mix benefit. We expect adjusted operating expenses to decrease from the second quarter as a result of lower compensation expense and our continuing focus on discretionary spending. EPS is projected to range from breakeven to $0.40 of earnings. The adjusted EPS range is $0.50 to $0.90 of earnings. Adjustments to arrive at our non-GAAP EPS are mainly comprised of severance related to the recent executive management departures and restructuring costs related to operations in Europe. This includes some initial estimated charges for the curamik restructuring actions announced today. We expect the total restructuring costs associated with the curamik European operations to be in the $12 million to $20 million range and incurred over the period from Q3 of '25 to Q3 of '26. The cost savings associated with these actions are projected to be greater than $13 million on an annual run rate basis and are mainly cost of sales. The savings from these actions will be incremental with the full run rate savings potential beginning in Q4 of '26. These are in addition to the $32 million of annual run rate savings communicated last earnings call. Lastly, based on current visibility, we project our full year tax rate to be approximately 30%. I will now turn the call back over to Ali.
Ali El-Haj:
Thank you, Laura. Let me conclude on Slide 13 with key priorities. Management is focused on simplifying how we operate by empowering our employees, leading to faster decision-making and improved speed of execution. With this enhanced agility, combined with a strong customer focus and new product introductions, we are confident in our ability to accelerate growth. That concludes our prepared remarks. I will now turn the call back to the operator for questions.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Daniel Moore with CJS Securities.
Daniel Joseph Moore:
Perhaps we just -- I'll pick up where you just left off. But beyond the $13 million restructuring targeted cost savings, maybe, Ali, just talk about your kind of top 2 or 3 priorities, either strategic or financial, as we think about the next 6 to 12 months.
Ali El-Haj:
Okay. Dan, as I mentioned earlier, I think strategically, first of all, we have a lot of cost initiatives internally that we're working on, operational improvements internally that we need to continue to focus on and improve. And that's why we made the changes that we've made in the organization to speed up the execution and be able to realize a much more dynamic organization that's going to be responsive to the customer and be able to respond faster, be able to deliver in lower lead time or shorter lead times and stuff like this. This is critical for our current business and as well as growth opportunities. So that's one. The second one is, again, on the top line, we really identified a lot of opportunities short term, midterm and long term. So the focus will be, again, priorities will be on the short and midterm, and we continue to pursue those opportunities to be able to impact that third and hopefully beyond that quarter's top line revenues.
Daniel Joseph Moore:
Helpful. And maybe I'll ask a 2 and a 2A and keep it to 2 questions. But you mentioned sequential growth several times. You also mentioned the focus will be on organic growth near term. What are the keys to getting back? And when do you expect to get back to consolidated organic revenue growth on a year-over-year basis? And how do you think about kind of reasonable midterm, say, 1- to 2- year gross margin targets given the updated outlook for curamik?
Ali El-Haj:
Yes. With regard to top line growth, again we're really being aggressive and our efforts will be -- the whole organization is going to be focused on doing so. And we anticipate to have meaningful growth quarter after quarter. As you know, we have guidance for the next quarter. We cannot go beyond that company policy. But we -- our expectation, we will see strong results going forward. And I'll turn it to Laura for the balance of the question.
Laura Russell:
Yes. Dan, let me comment on the margin expansion target. So as Ali said, the organization is heavily focused on top line expansion and execution of the opportunities that we see in front of ourselves. If we can execute that expansion, that utilization and benefit to the capacity that we already have invested in and have ready and available globally will assist us in expanding our margins versus how we're performing today with a challenged top line and performance level. In addition to that, this year we've announced significant cost savings that we've undertaken to manage during this environment. And as Ali said, we've already announced in today's comments, additional restructuring. So that will also assist us in leveraging and optimizing our margins on a go-forward basis.
Stephen Haymore:
We can go to the next question please.
Operator:
Our next question comes from the line of Craig Ellis with B. Riley Securities.
Craig Andrew Ellis:
Ali, welcome. I wanted to start just going back to something that you emphasized both in the beginning of your prepared remarks and then at the end when you summarized key priorities, and it was speed of execution. And what I was hoping you could do is give us some specific examples of where you think accelerating speed of execution can make a big difference for Rogers, whether it be in product development and changes to the way you -- the company manages fulfillment, other aspects of how you're bringing value to the customer. What is it specifically that you're looking for? And how much improvement do you need for this business to really hum in your eyes?
Ali El-Haj:
Yes. Thank you, Craig. I think one example that I can give you with regard to speedy kind of change the company performance to be able to deliver faster. If you look at our lead time in some of our product lines, it just -- it is not acceptable in today's market conditions. We just need to be faster. So we're trying to take our current lead times in some product lines and some plants from whatever today that number is and try to bring it down by 50% to 60%. So be able to deliver faster. If the customer needs it tomorrow, they need to have it tomorrow, not 3 or 4 days from now. This is something we need to work on. We have not been doing a great job with it in the past. I think going forward, you will see a significant change in that. Customers will see that and realize that. The second part that we've talked about, we have a significant number of new products and next-generation type products that we intend to launch and deliver over the next quarters, not 1 quarter, but over the next -- in the coming quarters. And I think we need to accelerate that development process. So by focusing the R&D organization and making sure that the whole company is focused on this becomes part of the normal operating process of the company, not in a silo by itself and working by themselves. So I think doing these 2 things, we'll be able to deliver faster prototypes to the customers so that they can put those in their new product development. We'll be able to win programs faster and deliver faster.
Craig Andrew Ellis:
That's really helpful. The second question will be for Laura. Laura, we had previously had in place a $25 million cost reduction effort that I think by the end of this year was going to be on a $32 million run rate. And today, I believe we have talked about an incremental $13 million. So am I right in saying that if we're talking about $13 million and if we were to look out to next year, the $13 million and the $32 million run rate exiting this year would mean that we're talking about around $45 million in cost savings as we look at 2026. And if that's so, any color on the slope of the line. And if that's not right, please correct me with those numbers.
Laura Russell:
Sure. Sure, Craig. So you're right, what we discussed in our last call was a '26 savings benefit of $32 million relative to how we exited '24. What we've announced today with the restructuring in our curamik operations in Europe is an incremental $13 million to that amount. So cumulatively, you're correct in your observation of $45 million. What I would say though is the timing won't fully manifest in full year '26. At the moment and based on our planning assumption, we would anticipate to start seeing the $13 million, which is an annual amount and crystallizing savings through the P&L likely in the fourth quarter of '26. And as we go through the process and evaluate that further, if there's any material change, naturally we'll provide update.
Operator:
And we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And this also concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.

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