OII (2025 - Q2)

Release Date: Jul 24, 2025

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Current Financial Performance

Oceaneering Q2 2025 Highlights

$698 million
Revenue
+4%
$54.4 million
Net Income
$0.54
EPS
$79.2 million
Operating Income
+31%

Key Financial Metrics

Adjusted EBITDA

$103 million
20%

Free Cash Flow

$46.9 million

Capital Expenditures

$30.3 million

Cash Balance

$434 million

Period Comparison Analysis

Revenue

$698 million
Current
Previous:$669 million
4.3% YoY

Net Income

$54.4 million
Current
Previous:$35 million
55.4% YoY

Operating Income

$79.2 million
Current
Previous:$60.5 million
30.9% YoY

Adjusted EBITDA

$103 million
Current
Previous:$85.9 million
19.9% YoY

SSR Operating Income

$64.5 million
Current
Previous:$62 million
4% YoY

SSR EBITDA Margin

35%
Current
Previous:34%
2.9% YoY

Manufactured Products Operating Income

$18.8 million
Current
Previous:$14.3 million
31.5% YoY

Manufactured Products Revenue

$145 million
Current
Previous:$139 million
4.3% YoY

OPG Operating Income

$21.7 million
Current
Previous:$16.1 million
34.8% YoY

OPG Operating Margin

15%
Current
Previous:12%
25% YoY

ADTech Operating Income

$16.3 million
Current
Previous:$7.2 million
126.4% YoY

ADTech Revenue

$61 million
Current
Previous:$54 million
13% YoY

Segment Revenue Breakdown

SSR Revenue Split Q2 2025

ROV Business
79.0%
Tooling and Survey
21.0%

Financial Guidance & Outlook

Q3 2025 EBITDA Guidance

$100M - $110M

Full Year 2025 Revenue Growth

Mid-single-digit %

Full Year 2025 Adjusted EBITDA

$390M - $420M

SSR EBITDA Margin Forecast

Mid-30% range

OPG Operating Margin Forecast

Mid-teens %

ADTech Operating Margin Forecast

Low teens %

Surprises

Adjusted EBITDA Beat

+4%

20% increase

When we provided our adjusted EBITDA guidance during the first quarter earnings call, we projected a quarterly year-over-year increase of 16%. We delivered a 20% increase in consolidated adjusted EBITDA.

Operating Income Increase

31% increase to $79.2 million

Consolidated operating income rose by 31% to $79.2 million in Q2 2025.

ADTech Operating Income Growth

125% increase to $16.3 million

ADTech operating income increased by 125% to $16.3 million on a 13% increase in revenue.

Manufactured Products Operating Income Growth

31% increase to $18.8 million

Manufactured Products generated operating income of $18.8 million, marking a 31% rise over the second quarter of 2024.

ROV Revenue per Day Inflection

$11,265

Our average Remotely Operated Vehicles or ROV revenue per day inflected earlier than expected to $11,265.

Impact Quotes

This kind of consistency speaks volumes about the strength of our execution and the resilience of our business.

We anticipate continued growth beyond 2025, driven by improved visibility into an increasing number of contracted floating rigs in the second half of 2026, sustained progression in ROV revenue per day utilized, and supportive oil prices.

The recently passed reconciliation bill or the Big Beautiful Bill will positively impact all 3 of our ADTech business lines over the next 5 years.

We do have line of sight to a good amount of [free cash flow] because it's sitting in receivables.

We see some of the offshore rig white space impact, but increased abandonment activity in Europe helps offset some of that.

Grayloc, our industry-leading high temperature, high-pressure connector business, continues to evolve by penetrating new markets and end customers with new products.

We are confident that we will sustain our ROV market share for drill support services in the 55% to 60% range.

The Navy's continued focus on acquiring services in addition to technology creates opportunities to leverage our commercial service expertise to support the Navy.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Management indicates some impact from offshore rig white space, but increased contract pricing has offset potential revenue declines.
  • Pricing per day for ROVs increased to $11,265, with expectations of continued higher rates despite shifts to lower-priced regions.
  • The company anticipates some offset from increased abandonment activity in Europe and expects the overall impact to be manageable in the near term.
  • Manufactured Products segment saw a 31% increase in operating income, driven by backlog conversion and improved pricing.
  • Order intake remains robust with approximately $100 million secured early in the quarter, supporting a book-to-bill ratio of 0.9 to 1.0 for 2025.
  • The subsea umbilicals business is expected to be flat in 2025 but shows signs of rebound in 2026 due to increased FID activity and subsea order momentum.
  • OPG reported a significant improvement with operating income of $21.7 million, supported by long-term contracts like BP Mauritania and vessel services in the Gulf of Mexico.
  • Management expects vessel utilization and activity levels to remain solid into Q3 2025, with a shift towards lower-margin IMR work in the second half.
  • Future results will be influenced by geographic and service mix changes, with a focus on decommissioning opportunities in Europe.
  • The bill is expected to increase funding for UUVs, including Oceaneering’s Freedom vehicle, and support the Navy’s underwater programs.
  • Space program budgets are better than expected, leading to renewed opportunities in thermal protection systems and international space agency projects.
  • The bill is projected to drive significant growth over the next five years, especially in submarine maintenance, human space flight, and space exploration initiatives.
  • ADTech operating income increased by 125%, with revenue growth driven by defense contracts and submarine repair activities.
  • Otech benefits from ramp-up of large defense contracts and seasonal offshore activity increases, with a forecasted ramp-up in revenue through early 2027.
  • The company is positioning to capitalize on increased defense spending, UUV development, and space-related opportunities.
  • Management considers the possibility of cold stacking one survey vessel if opportunities in geoscience do not materialize.
  • Survey business may see limited growth due to lower activity, but the company remains optimistic about future FID-driven order growth in subsea and geoscience markets.
  • Management expects ROV fleet utilization to be in the mid to high 60% range for 2025.
  • The company aims to maintain a 55-60% market share in drill support services despite market volatility.
  • The outlook reflects increased clarity on activity levels, with some conservatism to avoid overestimating fourth-quarter performance.
  • Despite muted bookings in early 2025, the company secured approximately $100 million in new orders early in the quarter.
  • The full-year book-to-bill ratio is expected to be between 0.9 and 1.0, indicating a balanced order pipeline.
  • Backlog conversion and improved pricing are key drivers for the segment’s strong outlook.
  • Management emphasizes the importance of offering more comprehensive, life-of-field services to clients.
  • Geographic expansion, especially in the U.S. Gulf and international markets, is a key growth driver.
  • The company is preparing to increase capacity to support submarine maintenance, space, and defense markets.
  • The company repurchased approximately $10 million worth of shares for four consecutive quarters.
  • Cash position remains strong at $434 million with no borrowings under the revolving credit facility.
  • Management maintains a focus on disciplined capital allocation and sustaining strong free cash flow.

Key Insights:

  • For Q3 2025, Oceaneering forecasts consolidated EBITDA between $100 million and $110 million with revenue and operating results expected to increase across most segments except OPG, which is projected to decline in operating results on flat revenue.
  • Full year 2025 guidance projects mid-single-digit percentage revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA between $390 million and $420 million, with a narrowed guidance range due to strong first half performance.
  • Segment outlook for full year 2025 includes mid-single-digit revenue growth and mid-30% EBITDA margin for SSR, significantly improved operating income and margins for Manufactured Products, mid-teens operating income margin for OPG, mid-single-digit margin for IMDS, and low teens operating income margin for ADTech.
  • ROV fleet utilization is expected to be in the mid- to high 60% range with sustained market share for drill support services between 55% and 60%.
  • The company anticipates continued growth beyond 2025 driven by increased contracted floating rigs, higher ROV revenue per day, more FIDs, supportive oil prices, expanded life-of-field services, geographic expansion of ADTech, and increased demand for Mobile Robotics Technologies.
  • All operating segments contributed to beating the midpoint of guidance with year-over-year improvements in revenue, operating income, and margins.
  • The recently passed reconciliation bill (Big Beautiful Bill) is expected to positively impact all ADTech business lines over the next five years, increasing funding for UUVs and submarine programs.
  • Integration of Global Design Innovation into IMDS continues with pilot projects underway to demonstrate new capabilities.
  • SSR increased average ROV revenue per day to $11,265 earlier than expected, with solid fleet utilization and market share in floating rig contracts.
  • Manufactured Products improved margins driven by backlog conversion and growth in Grayloc high temperature, high-pressure connectors and rotator valve business.
  • OPG secured several longer-term contracts including a vessel services contract in the U.S. Gulf and an IMR contract for BP Mauritania, providing visibility into vessel utilization.
  • ADTech benefited from ramp-up of a large defense contract and increased activity in submarine repairs and dry dock shelter overhauls.
  • Rod Larson emphasized the team's consistent delivery with 8 straight quarters meeting or exceeding adjusted EBITDA guidance, highlighting the resilience and strength of the business.
  • Larson noted the offsetting effects of offshore rig white space with increased abandonment activity in Europe helping to maintain ROV pricing and utilization.
  • He expressed confidence in the Manufactured Products backlog and order intake, particularly in the second half of 2025, with early commitments of approximately $100 million.
  • Larson highlighted the positive impact of the Big Beautiful Bill on defense and space programs, submarine maintenance, and the potential for increased capacity in MSD.
  • Alan Curtis explained the typical cash flow pattern with Q3 and Q4 generating stronger cash inflows, supported by receivables collection.
  • Management remains positive about Energy and Aerospace & Defense markets and confident in delivering value to customers with growth expected beyond 2025.
  • On offshore rig white space, management acknowledged some impact but noted pricing improvements and increased abandonment activity in Europe offsetting effects, with Survey business being the main area of uncertainty.
  • Regarding Manufactured Products orders, management expects flattish year-over-year orders for 2025 with strong early second half order intake and positive signals for 2026 driven by subsea tree orders and FIDs.
  • ROV utilization outlook reduction relates to both vessel and rig support with increased clarity on fourth quarter activity leading to conservative estimates.
  • ROV pricing increases are mostly due to contract rollovers with minimal FX or performance-based pricing effects so far.
  • Free cash flow ramp in second half is expected based on historical patterns and receivables collection, with good visibility on cash inflows.
  • OPG's visibility improved due to booking larger contracts like BP Mauritania, providing a stable base despite market volatility.
  • The Big Beautiful Bill is expected to boost ADTech through increased funding for UUVs, space programs, and submarine maintenance, with management planning capacity expansion to meet demand.
  • Unallocated expenses were $46.7 million for the quarter, slightly higher than guidance.
  • ROV fleet utilization was 67% overall, with 63% in drill support and 37% in vessel-based activity, consistent with prior year.
  • SSR holds 60% of the contracted floating rig market with ROV contracts on 81 of 136 floating rigs under contract.
  • Manufactured Products took a $2.5 million inventory reserve related to the former theme park ride business.
  • Survey Geoscience business may cold stack one vessel if new opportunities do not materialize.
  • The space program budget was better than expected, leading to renewed opportunities in thermal protection systems and foreign space agencies.
  • The major defense contract revenue is projected to ramp steadily through the design and engineering phase, completing in early 2027 before production ramp-up.
  • Marine Services Division expects improved results due to increased submarine and dry dock shelter repair work.
  • Grayloc connector business continues to penetrate new markets and end customers, contributing to margin improvements.
  • Decommissioning work in Europe is expected to increase, providing higher personnel and tooling revenue per day to offset lower rig support activity.
  • The company maintains a fleet of 250 ROV systems and expects tendering activity to support utilization and pricing assumptions into 2026.
  • The company is positioning to leverage commercial service expertise to support Navy needs in addition to technology offerings.
  • Management is monitoring the Survey business closely as it represents a key variable in overall SSR performance.
Complete Transcript:
OII:2025 - Q2
Operator:
Welcome to Oceaneering's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Rob, and I will be your conference operator. [Operator Instructions] With that, I will now turn the call over to Hilary Frisbie, Oceaneering's Senior Director of Investor Relations. Hilary F
Hilary Frisbie:
Thanks, Rob. Good morning, and welcome to Oceaneering's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being webcast, and a replay will be available on Oceaneering's website. Joining us on the call are Rod Larson, President and Chief Executive Officer, who will be providing our prepared comments; and Alan Curtis, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. After Rod's remarks, we'll open up the call for questions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind participants that statements we make during this call regarding our future financial performance, business strategy, plans for future operations and industry conditions are forward-looking statements made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Our comments today also include non-GAAP financial measures. Additional details and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our second quarter press release, which is posted on our website. I'll now turn the call over to Rod.
Roderick A. Larson:
Hey, good morning, everybody, and thanks for joining the call today. I continue to be incredibly proud of our team's consistent delivery against our guidance. When we provided our adjusted EBITDA guidance during the first quarter earnings call, we projected a quarterly year-over-year increase of 16%. We delivered a 20% increase in consolidated adjusted EBITDA. This marks 8 straight quarters of meeting or exceeding our adjusted EBITDA guidance range and 12 quarters out of the last 13. This kind of consistency speaks volumes about the strength of our execution and the resilience of our business. In the second quarter of 2025, all of our operating segments contributed to beating the midpoint of our guidance by delivering quarterly year-over-year improvements in revenue, operating income and operating income margin. In particular, Aerospace and Defense Technologies or ADTech, improved its results as work commenced on several recent contract awards. Our Offshore Projects Group, or OPG, successfully completed higher-margin well intervention and well stimulation products in international locations, which drove a significant increase in their operating income and an expansion of their operating income margin. Manufactured Products results improved as we progressed higher-margin backlog through our manufacturing plants and not to be missed, our average Remotely Operated Vehicles or ROV revenue per day inflected earlier than expected to $11,265. Today, I'll focus my comments on our second quarter results and overviews of our segment performance and our consolidated and business segment outlook for the third quarter and full year of 2025. I'll start with our consolidated results from the second quarter of 2025. As we reported yesterday, we generated net income of $54.4 million or $0.54 per share. Consolidated revenue increased to $698 million, a 4% increase over the second quarter of 2024. We also achieved notable growth in operating income and EBITDA. For the second quarter of 2025, consolidated operating income rose by 31% to $79.2 million. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA grew 20% to $103 million. We generated $77.2 million of cash in operating activities and utilized $30.3 million in capital expenditures, resulting in free cash flow of $46.9 million. For the fourth consecutive quarter, we repurchased approximately $10 million worth of shares of our common stock. Our ending cash position was $434 million with no borrowings under our secured revolving credit facility. Now let's look at our results by business segment for the second quarter of 2025 as compared to the second quarter of 2024. Subsea Robotics or SSR earnings improved despite concerns over offshore activity levels in white space on an increase in average ROV revenue per day utilized to $11,265, demonstrating our ability to realize pricing improvements in new contracts. We anticipate these higher rates will carry through the second half from 2025 despite a portion of our utilization shifting to lower-priced regions. Due to the increased revenue per day utilized, SSR produced operating income of $64.5 million, an improvement of 4%. Revenue increased approximately 2% and EBITDA margin expanding slightly to 35%. ROV fleet utilization for the quarter was solid at 67%. Fleet use of 63% in drill support and 37% in vessel-based activity was similar to the same period last year. Revenue split between our ROV business and our combined Tooling and Survey businesses as a percentage of our total SSR revenue was 79% and 21%, respectively. As of June 30, 2025, we had 60% of the contracted floating rig market with ROV contracts on 81 of the 136 floating rigs under contract. We maintained our fleet count of 250 ROV systems. As we look forward to the second half of 2025 and into 2026, we anticipate continued tendering activity that is supportive of our ROV utilization and pricing assumptions. This includes more decommissioning opportunities in Europe, which will help offset marginally lower rig support activity. As a reminder, decommissioning work has the advantage of more personnel and tooling revenue per day. The strong first half performance of our ROV Tooling business is expected to continue. While we're pursuing new opportunities in our Survey Geoscience business, we may cold stack one of our survey vessels in the future should these opportunities fail to materialize. Manufactured Products generated operating income of $18.8 million, marking a 31% rise over the second quarter of 2024. Revenue grew by 4% to $145 million and operating income margin expanded by 262 basis points driven by the conversion of backlog in our energy manufacturing plans. During the quarter, we took a further $2.5 million inventory reserve related to our former theme park ride business. Our confidence in our second half forecast is underpinned by the continued manufacturing throughput of backlog at the improved pricing that we've discussed over the past several quarters. Our full year 2025 book-to-bill guidance of 0.9 to 1.0 remains unchanged despite muted bookings in the first half of 2025. We've consistently anticipated that our order intake will be concentrated in the second half of the year, and we've already secured order commitments totaling approximately $100 million in the first weeks of the quarter. We expect to finalize those contacts in the coming weeks. Our other product lines also supported these results and are contributing to our forecast. In particular, Grayloc, our industry-leading high temperature, high-pressure connector business, continues to evolve by penetrating new markets and end customers with new products. We've also seen more activity for rotator, our topside and subsea valve business, which corresponds to subsea tree awards. OPG reported significantly improved operating income of $21.7 million. Revenue increased by 4% and operating income margin expanded to 15%. In the second quarter, we secured several longer-term contracts, including a vessel services contract in the U.S. Gulf and an Inspection, Maintenance and Repair, or IMR contract for BP Mauritania. These contracts provide us with visibility into OPG's vessel utilization and activity levels for the remainder of 2025 and into future years. We project vessel utilization and activity levels will be solid in the third quarter of 2025 based on current backlog and quotation activity. Given current Brent Oil prices, we are still encouraged by the macro environment for the fourth quarter, we do not expect activity to reach the same level as the fourth quarter of 2024. In the second half of 2025, we expect OPG's results will be impacted by changes in geographic and service mix as we anticipate activity will shift away from higher-margin intervention projects toward lower-margin IMR work in the U.S. Gulf. For Integrity Management and Digital Solutions or IMDS, operating income and operating income margin improved on relatively flat revenue. We continue to integrate Global Design Innovation or GDi, into our Integrity Management business and to identify pilot projects to demonstrate our new capabilities. ADTech operating income increased by 125% to $16.3 million on a 13% increase in revenue. With operating income margin expanding 15% as compared to the second quarter of 2024. Our Oceaneering Technologies, or OTECH business line benefited from the continued ramp-up of the large contract announced in the first quarter. Our Marine Services Division, MSD also contributed positively to ADTech's performance in the second quarter with high activity levels in submarine repairs and dry dock shelter overhauls. Looking into the second half of the year, we anticipate further revenue increases in OTECH from recently announced defense contract and from seasonal increases in offshore operations. MSD results are also forecasted to improve due to additional volume of submarine and dry dock shelter repair work. Revenue from the major defense contract is projected to steadily ramp up quarter-over-quarter during the design and engineering phase. This phase is expected to be completed in early 2027 when we will commence production and see a further ramp-up in revenue. Additionally, we anticipate that the recently passed reconciliation bill or the Big Beautiful Bill will positively impact all 3 of our ADTech business lines over the next 5 years. It increases funding for Unmanned Underwater Vehicles or UUVs, such as our Freedom vehicle that we sold to the Defense Innovation Unit last year. The Navy's continued focus on acquiring services in addition to technology and creates opportunities to leverage our commercial service expertise to support the Navy and delivering a full range of capabilities to their fleet. Submarine construction and maintenance programs are projected to accelerate creating additional opportunities for MSD. And finally, the space program budget was better than expected. Since passage of this legislation, we have seen renewed opportunities related to thermal protection systems and with foreign space agencies. Unallocated expenses of $46.7 million were slightly higher than our guidance for the quarter. Turning our outlook to the third quarter of 2025 as compared with the third quarter of 2024. We forecast increases in consolidated revenue and EBITDA. Consolidated EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $100 million to $110 million. Compared to the third quarter of 2024, our projections for the third quarter of 2025 by segment are: for SSR, we anticipate higher revenue and operating results, with EBITDA margin expected to be in the mid to upper 30% range. For Manufactured Products, we expect significantly improved operating results driven by increased revenue. For OPG, we project a decline in operating results on relatively flat revenue. For IMDS, we forecast significantly improved operating results on relatively flat revenue. For ADTech, we anticipate significant increases in both revenue and operating results. And finally, we project unallocated expenses to be between $45 million and $50 million. For the full year 2025 on a consolidated basis, we project revenue to grow in the mid-single-digit percentage range and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $390 million to $420 million. You will note that we've narrowed our guidance range by tightening both the lower and the higher ends based on our strong first half performance and the second half outlook. Directionally, for our full year 2025 operations by segment as compared to 2024, for SSR, we forecast improved operating results on a mid-single-digit percentage increase in revenue. Our revised guidance on revenue growth is based on our projection for lower-than-expected conditions from our Survey business. SSR EBITDA margin is projected to average in the mid-30% range for the full year. We estimate that our overall ROV fleet utilization will be in the mid- to high 60% range for the full year. We are confident that we will sustain our ROV market share for drill support services in the 55% to 60% range. For Manufactured Products, we project significantly improved operating income on better operating margins and increased revenue. As previously stated, we anticipate the book-to-bill ratio will be in the range of 0.9 to 1.0 for the full year. For OPG, we expect year-over-year operating results to improve on flat to slightly increased revenue. Overall, for 2025, OPG operating income margin is expected to be in the mid-teens percentage range. For IMDS, we forecast a significant increase in operating results on increased revenue with operating income margin expected to be in the mid-single-digit percentage range for the full year. For ADTech, operating results are forecasted to improve significantly on increased revenue. Operating income margin is expected to be in the low teens percentage range for the full year. In summary, we remain positive about both our Energy and Aerospace and Defense markets that we serve, and we're confident in the value we deliver to our customers. We foresee continued growth beyond 2025, driven by improved visibility into an increasing number of contracted floating rigs in the second half of 2026, sustained progression in ROE revenue per day utilized, anticipated higher levels of FIDs, expectations for supportive oil prices, our ability to perform and offer more life-of-field services, increased demand and geographic expansion for our ADTech business and increased market demand for our Mobile Robotics Technologies. We appreciate everyone's continued interest in Oceaneering, and I'll be happy to take any questions you may have.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Eddie Kim from Barclays.
Eddie Kim:
So we've heard about offshore rig white space from the offshore drillers for several quarters now. More recently, some of the larger diversified service companies have started to mention this as well, but this doesn't seem readily apparent in part of your business at this point. The place that would show up is, of course, your ROVs business, but pricing there continues to increase almost quarter after quarter. So all that to say, are you seeing any kind of impact to your business due to offshore rig white space? And if you haven't, do you expect to see it maybe later this year or do you think your business will emerge relatively unscathed from this?
Roderick A. Larson:
No. Great question, Eddie. And I think your question and questions we get all the time is like people are looking for that other shoe to fall, right? When is it going to happen? I would say we do see some of that. We were expecting to get closer to that exiting the year with a 70% overall utilization for ROV. So we've seen some of it, as we talked about, getting to our pricing point sooner than we expected is offset some of that. So we see some of that. Maybe some of the offset is the increase in some of the abandonment activity, particularly in Europe. So there's some puts and takes in there that have leveled us off. But really, I mean, the thing to watch in the SSR business is going to be Survey. We set up to run 2 vessels. We've been running 1. We were hoping to get to 2, but we might not get to 2 in the Geoscience part of Survey. But other than that, I mean, ROVs, we've trimmed the sales a little bit, but it's kind of been within the range of expectations.
Eddie Kim:
Got it. Got it. My follow-up is just on orders in your Manufactured Products segment, which is mostly comprised of subsea umbilicals. Orders have been trending below 1x book-to-bill now for several quarters. And it looks like full year orders this year will likely be down versus last year. Could you just give us your latest thoughts on the umbilicals business and how you see that trending maybe this year and into next year? Should we expect kind of flattish trajectory as we move to next year? Or do you expect to rebound? Just any thoughts on the umbilicals business?
Roderick A. Larson:
Well, yes. Let me start with orders year-over-year, we think are more '24 to '25 are more flattish. We don't really expect them to be down. And it is, we knew early in the year that we were going to be back half loaded on orders. And it's -- so far, I mean, it's pretty early in the back half, but the first few weeks have been really good. I mentioned earlier, $100 million already in the first few weeks. And we have -- the rest of the things that we expect to come in are still out there in the pipeline. So that part is good. '25 to '26, I would just say, you're hearing a lot of good things from us and others in that Subsea business about FIDs, about subsea tree orders. So we see good things happening in umbilicals. We think that there's going to be a pretty good book. So a little bit TBD, a little early to call the year-over-year, but I do think that there's good signals for '26. The other thing I'd call out, and we don't talk about it a lot because in total revenue dollars, it's not as big as umbilicals but in margins, it's a great business in that Grayloc business which continues to grow and continues to be a bigger component of the overall business. That's also looking strong. So there's good things going on below the water line, too.
Operator:
Your next question comes from the line of David Smith from Pickering Energy Partners.
David Christopher Smith:
Pickering Energy Partners Insights:
Congratulations on the solid Q2 results.
Roderick A. Larson:
Thanks, David.
David Christopher Smith:
Pickering Energy Partners Insights:
Just following up on Eddie's question. I wanted to ask if that slightly lower full year ROV utilization outlook relates more to vessel support or rig support. And if you characterize that was a change in visibility for underlying activity or something else?
Roderick A. Larson:
It's both. I mean we see it on both sides. So it's not just one or the other. So it's a little bit of both. And I would just say it is increased clarity and seeing what everybody's plans are going to be, especially in the fourth quarter. I mean that stuff is becoming more apparent now. So we're just being, I think, conservative to not overestimate what could come to be in the fourth quarter.
David Christopher Smith:
Pickering Energy Partners Insights:
Perfect. And then related around the ROV pricing outlook, is this mostly a function of contract rollover, maybe a little bit of FX? Or are we seeing -- is it too early to ask if we're seeing any benefit show up from maybe some performance-based deals?
Roderick A. Larson:
I would say it's mostly the contracts. We don't -- it's not -- there's not a big FX effect, and there's not a big effect of the performance- based pricing yet. I mean those are things that are trued up later. So I would just say those are still in the mix, but it's mostly just that continued rollover of contracts.
David Christopher Smith:
Pickering Energy Partners Insights:
Perfect. Appreciate it. If I could sneak one more in. Free cash flow was kind of modest in the first half. So there's obviously a large ramp implied for the second half to meet the full year guide. Can you walk us through your visibility on that step up? Kind of what are the biggest contributors? How much of that improvement is already in motion or still dependent on execution?
Alan R. Curtis:
Yes, I'll take this one, David. A lot of it is kind of how we've seen the last 4 or 5 years play out where Q1 is a pretty big cash draw for us. We rebound, generate positive cash in Q2. But really, it's been more of a Q3, Q4 story for us the last, I'll say, 4 to 5 years, and we're seeing that again this year. We do have line of sight to a good amount of it because it's sitting in receivables. So I think it's going and getting paid for the work we've performed and bringing that cash in, in Q3, Q4 time frame.
Operator:
Your next question comes from the line of Josh Jayne from Daniel Energy Partners.
Joshua W. Jayne:
First one I had was on the OPG business. To me, it sounds like there's more visibility today and work is getting booked more out into the future than there has been previously. And so first of all, is that accurate? And if so, maybe you could just discuss that dynamic today even in what's been a pretty volatile market.
Roderick A. Larson:
I think, Josh, you're right. And it's a little bit of function of when -- I've always talked about these bigger chunks of business when we start to book like the BP Mauritania, those big international contracts really help our visibility a lot, and that creates that stable base. Call out the Gulf of Mexico, for the most part, there's still call-out work, but we're able to secure more given days.
Joshua W. Jayne:
Okay. And then second question, I just wanted to go back to comments you made surrounding the potential impact from the Big Beautiful Bill. You already had some pretty strong momentum around the business lines that could benefit from this. Maybe you could just dive in a little bit more to how you're thinking about that and positioning the company for what sounds like could be even more sizable growth over the next couple of years. Just some details around that would be helpful.
Roderick A. Larson:
Sure. I think the OTECH side with the vehicle business is a big thing because that's always been -- it had bilateral support, a lot of things that U.S. has great defense supremacy around what happens under water, and they're very, very keen to maintain that. And we provide, obviously, a lot of services there. That's our wheelhouse. So I think that's a big part of it. But probably even more exciting is the way it affects the other 2 businesses. I mean, space was on the roads. They were really worried for a while, especially when Doji was in. And so a lot of the space business appear to be going the other way. But now we see things like Artemis going to the moon, those things actually being refunded. Just the phone started ringing immediately with people who wanted to kick off projects again. So we think space definitely is a good one. We talk about Thermal Protection Systems, which is good because that covers the full gamut, anything with a booster underneath it. But human space flight, which is one of the things that got, I think, rebolstered is great for us because we do suit work, we do human interface work, and that's a big one for us to see come back. So that's great. And then I'd also go to MSD. I mean, it sounds like fleet readiness, being able to keep our -- especially our submarines in our case ready to go. They will probably put as much money into submarine maintenance and repair and new build as the industry can take. So we are already thinking about how do we gear up to have more capacity to serve that market.
Operator:
And that concludes our question-and-answer period. I will now turn the call back over to Rod Larson for some final closing remarks.
Roderick A. Larson:
Well, since there are no more questions, I'll just wrap up by thanking everybody for joining. This concludes our second quarter 2025 conference call. Have a great day.
Operator:
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