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MYE (2025 - Q2)

Release Date: Aug 01, 2025

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Current Financial Performance

Myers Industries Q2 2025 Financial Highlights

$209.6 million
Net Sales
-4.8%
$0.31
Adjusted EPS
$22.8 million
Adjusted Operating Income
-220%
15.7%
Adjusted EBITDA Margin

Key Financial Metrics

Adjusted Gross Margin

33.9%
2.2%

Adjusted SG&A Expenses

5% decrease YoY

Flat % of sales

Free Cash Flow

$24.7 million
149%

CapEx

$3.6 million

Period Comparison Analysis

Net Sales

$209.6 million
Current
Previous:$220.2 million
4.8% YoY

Adjusted Operating Income

$22.8 million
Current
Previous:$28.8 million
20.8% YoY

Adjusted EPS

$0.31
Current
Previous:$0.39
20.5% YoY

Net Sales

$209.6 million
Current
Previous:$206.8 million
1.4% QoQ

Adjusted Operating Income

$22.8 million
Current
Previous:$18.7 million
21.9% QoQ

Adjusted EPS

$0.31
Current
Previous:$0.22
40.9% QoQ

Segment Revenue & Margin Breakdown

Revenue by Segment Q2 2025

Material Handling
77.0%
Distribution
23.0%

Material Handling Adjusted EBITDA Margin

23.9%

Distribution Adjusted EBITDA Margin

4.8%

Financial Health & Ratios

Key Financial Ratios Q2 2025

2.8x
Net Leverage Ratio
$41.3 million
Cash on Hand
$239.7 million
Revolving Credit Facility Availability

Financial Guidance & Outlook

Military Products Sales Expectation

>$40 million in 2025

SG&A Cost Savings Target

$20 million by end 2025

Surprises

Revenue Decline

$209.6 million

Second quarter net sales were $209.6 million, down 4.8% from last year, with lower revenue in both segments.

Adjusted Gross Margin Decline

-220 basis points

33.9%

Adjusted gross margin fell 220 basis points to 33.9% due to lower volume, product sales mix, and lower pricing, primarily in Distribution segment.

Adjusted Operating Income Decline

$22.8 million

Adjusted operating income decreased to $22.8 million, with margin compressing 220 basis points to 10.9% of sales.

Strong Free Cash Flow

$24.7 million

Free cash flow was $24.7 million, up $22.7 million sequentially and $14.8 million from prior year.

Debt Reduction

$13 million

Debt was reduced by $13 million in the quarter, bringing total debt to $379 million.

Impact Quotes

The strategic review process we are launching will enable us to achieve this as well as simplify and focus our portfolio on core businesses that align with our mission.

We are on track to deliver $20 million in cost savings, primarily SG&A by the end of 2025.

Operating cash flow was $28.3 million, an improvement of $18.2 million sequentially and $14 million from the prior year on improved cash generation from working capital.

We have made significant progress over the first 6 months of our Focused Transformation journey.

We remain confident in second half growth based on our strong backlog for both military products in the industrial end market and for infrastructure products.

The rotational molding kind of operational footprint was built during a really strong automotive, very strong RV backdrop in lens where there was pretty brisk market conditions at the time.

With strong support and leadership from our Board of Directors, we are clarifying our mission and laying a solid foundation upon which we are building our long-term strategy.

We plan to continue making opportunistic share repurchases to complement our ongoing dividends as part of our capital allocation strategy to return cash to shareholders.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Board of Directors has approved a strategic review of MTS, the company's original business and a market leader in automotive aftermarket.
  • The review aims to determine if MTS can achieve greater success under different ownership with focused investment.
  • This move aligns with the company's goal to simplify and focus its portfolio on high-return, mission-aligned businesses.
  • Management believes MTS may perform better with targeted capital and strategic focus outside Myers.
  • Decided to idle 2 of 9 rotational molding facilities to better utilize operating assets.
  • Expected annual savings of at least $3 million from this consolidation.
  • Facilities to be consolidated into other existing facilities as needed.
  • The two facilities are leased, and the move is driven by operational efficiency and changing market conditions, especially after a period of strong automotive and RV demand.
  • On track to deliver $20 million in cost savings, primarily from SG&A reductions.
  • Current progress includes $15 million of run rate savings as of June, with the remaining $5 million expected from ongoing initiatives.
  • Manufacturing consolidation and reduction in outside services are key drivers.
  • Management expressed confidence in achieving full savings by the end of 2025.
  • Tariff-related uncertainty has caused delays in export sales, particularly affecting Signature's export business to Europe and Canada.
  • Market stabilization is expected as tariff resolutions are reached, with some recent positive developments in Europe.
  • Management does not anticipate tariffs will significantly impact future sales, especially with ongoing resolutions.
  • Tariffs have temporarily affected order timing but are not expected to cause long-term damage.
  • Encouraging large backlog in military and infrastructure markets, providing visibility into future sales.
  • Backlog in infrastructure, especially composite matting, is driven by large projects and is a positive indicator for the second half of 2025.
  • Backlog in military is strong, with expected sales to exceed $40 million for the year.
  • Order patterns suggest a positive outlook despite short-term demand headwinds in vehicle and automotive markets.
  • Emphasis on lean principles and operational efficiency to drive performance.
  • Creating a culture of accountability to prioritize profit-generating activities.
  • Progress seen in action plans and efficiency initiatives, contributing to margin improvement.
  • Signature adds operational talent and growth potential, especially in infrastructure.
  • Synergies include sharing best practices and operational expertise across material handling footprint.
  • Management plans to leverage Signature's growth opportunities and intends to provide further strategic updates in late 2025.
  • Strong free cash flow of $25 million in Q2, supporting organic growth and debt repayment.
  • Debt reduced by $13 million in the quarter, with a net leverage ratio of 2.8x.
  • Ongoing share repurchases and disciplined capital deployment aim to enhance shareholder value.
  • Moderate growth expected in industrial markets, driven by military replenishments and infrastructure projects.
  • Sales of military products expected to exceed $40 million, with infrastructure projects supporting growth.
  • Vehicle markets expected to decline due to tariffs and economic uncertainty.
  • Stable demand anticipated in food and beverage, with some improvement in seed boxes in the second half.
  • Management expresses confidence in the company's transformation efforts and market position.
  • Plans to share more detailed strategy updates before the end of 2025.
  • Emphasis on building a high-performance culture and focusing on high-growth, high-margin businesses.

Key Insights:

  • Automotive aftermarket distribution is expected to be slightly down, with ongoing efforts to stabilize the business through cost structure improvements, pricing, sales territory alignment, and digital sales strategy.
  • Consumer sales are anticipated to be stable with a return to a more normalized storm season.
  • Financial results are expected to improve as Focused Transformation progresses.
  • Food and beverage end market, including agriculture, is projected to be stable with expected second half improvement in seed boxes.
  • Infrastructure market growth is supported by strong project spending and material conversion from wood matting, backed by a strong backlog and new customers contributing over 20% of revenue.
  • Military product sales are expected to exceed $40 million for full year 2025.
  • The company reconfirmed its 2025 market outlook with expectations of moderate growth in industrial markets driven by military product demand.
  • The company will continue monitoring end market conditions, tariffs, and other factors that may influence demand trends.
  • Vehicle end market is expected to decline due to economic uncertainty and tariff impacts.
  • Consolidation of rotational molding production capacity by idling 2 of 9 facilities, expected to generate at least $3 million in annual savings.
  • Distribution center consolidation and expense reduction initiatives are improving margins in Distribution segment.
  • Focused Transformation program has four objectives: establish culture of execution and accountability, create clear strategies with KPIs, deliver consistent and reliable results by controlling costs, and optimize cash flow with disciplined capital allocation.
  • Launched a strategic review of Myers Tire Supply (MTS) business to explore potential ownership changes to better align with company mission and improve profitability.
  • On track to deliver $20 million in cost savings primarily from SG&A by end of 2025, with $18 million line of sight achieved so far.
  • Signature acquisition integration is progressing well, with operational synergies and growth opportunities in infrastructure business.
  • Strong free cash flow generation of $25 million in the quarter supports organic growth investments and debt repayment.
  • CEO Aaron Schapper emphasized the importance of Focused Transformation to improve performance and deliver consistent results.
  • CEO expressed excitement about future growth platforms and value creation for shareholders.
  • CEO highlighted the importance of lean principles and accountability culture to prioritize profitable work.
  • Management is confident in achieving the $20 million cost reduction target and improving margin profile through operational consolidation and cost control.
  • Management remains cautiously optimistic about market conditions, acknowledging risks from tariffs and economic uncertainty but encouraged by backlog and customer bookings.
  • Strong leadership and Board support are driving clarity in mission and long-term strategy development.
  • The strategic review of MTS reflects a decision to focus the portfolio on core businesses aligned with the company mission.
  • VP Dan Hoehn noted improved cash generation and disciplined capital allocation as key strengths.
  • CEO Aaron Schapper explained the MTS strategic review was a result of extensive evaluation and data gathering over six months.
  • CEO expressed confidence in seed box demand rebound in second half based on customer orders and seasonality.
  • Management plans opportunistic share repurchases and remains committed to capital allocation strategy balancing dividends and buybacks.
  • Rotational molding consolidation involves idling two leased plants due to excess capacity, with options to keep facilities available for future needs.
  • Signature acquisition integration is yielding operational synergies and growth opportunities, especially in infrastructure.
  • Strong free cash flow in the quarter was driven by timing and improved working capital management, with expectations for similar trends going forward.
  • Tariff impacts caused some sales timing delays, particularly in export markets like Europe and Canada, but resolutions are emerging.
  • VP Dan Hoehn described backlog visibility primarily in infrastructure and military products, providing confidence for second half growth.
  • The call included safe harbor disclosures and noted the use of non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted gross profit, adjusted operating income, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS.
  • The company expects to share more details on updated strategy and growth platforms before the end of 2025.
  • The company has a revolving credit facility with $239.7 million availability and $41.3 million cash on hand for financial flexibility.
  • The company is headquartered in Akron, with a history rooted in the Myers Tire Supply business.
  • The company is monitoring tariff developments closely as they impact customer purchasing behavior and market timing.
  • The company posted a presentation and press release on its Investor Relations website concurrent with the call.
  • The Focused Transformation program was introduced earlier in the year and is central to the company's strategy for 2025.
  • Infrastructure projects are a key growth driver, supported by material conversion trends and new customer acquisitions.
  • The company is balancing cost reductions with investments in organic growth and maintaining a strong balance sheet.
  • The company is focusing on digital sales strategy and sales territory alignment to improve automotive aftermarket distribution.
  • The food and beverage segment, including agriculture, is stable with expected improvement in seed box demand in the second half.
  • The industrial end market, especially military products, remains a strong growth area with healthy demand and backlog.
  • The rotational molding footprint was built during stronger market conditions and is now being rationalized to improve efficiency.
  • The strategic review and operational consolidations are expected to simplify the portfolio and enhance shareholder value.
  • Vehicle and automotive aftermarket segments face headwinds from economic uncertainty and tariff-related delays.
Complete Transcript:
MYE:2025 - Q2
Operator:
Good morning. Thank you for joining today's Myers 2025 Second Quarter Earnings Results Call. My name is Makhaye, and I will be the moderator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to pass the call over to our host, Meghan Beringer. Meghan, you may begin today's call. Meghan B
Meghan Beringer:
Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Myers Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Review. Joining me today are Aaron Schapper, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Dan Hoehn, Vice President, Corporate Controller and Interim Chief Financial Officer. After the prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release outlining our second quarter financial results. In addition, a presentation to accompany today's prepared remarks has been posted. Both documents are available on the Investor Relations section of our website at myersindustries.com. This call is being webcast live on our website and will be archived along with the transcript of the call shortly after this event. Please turn to Slide 3 of the presentation for our safe harbor disclosures. I would like to remind you that we may make some forward- looking statements during this call. These comments are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on management's current expectations and involve risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements. Further information concerning these risks, uncertainties and other factors are set forth in the company's periodic SEC filings. Also please be advised that certain non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted gross profit, adjusted operating income, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings per share may be discussed on this call. Please turn to Slide our 5 of our presentation as I will now turn the call over to Aaron.
Aaron M. Schapper:
Thank you, Meghan. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us. I will begin today's call with review of our second quarter, then I will provide an update on Focused Transformation, including announcements to accelerate our progress that we published this morning in our press release. Following my comment, Dan will provide a detailed review of second quarter financials and our outlook for the year. Second quarter review was lower year-over-year. We achieved strong growth in certain applications, notably in industrial, where demand for our military products remain healthy. However, we did encounter demand headwinds in most other end markets, primarily in vehicle and automotive aftermarket, resulting in lower sales across both segments. As Dan will detail in a few moments, we believe some of the softness is timing related. Our outlook for the second half of the year is positive, backed by our substantial backlog, primarily in industrial markets, especially military as well as infrastructure projects. We remain encouraged by the longer-term trends within our markets. We demonstrated progress against our goal to reduce SG&A, bringing those expenses down year-over-year and keeping us on pace to achieve our targeted $20 million cost reduction, primarily SG&A by the end of this year. For the quarter, we earned $0.26 per share. Adjusted EPS was $0.31. I'm pleased with the way our team has navigated challenging end market environments and remain confident that we are on track to improve performance. Turning to Slide 6. I would like to provide an update on our Focused Transformation program. We introduced this initiative earlier this year to improve our performance and deliver more consistent and reliable results. Today, we announced 3 actions that we believe will accelerate our transformation and bring us closer to obtaining our goals. I would like to discuss each of these. First, our Board of Directors has approved launching a strategic review of our Myers Tire Supply business that serves automotive aftermarket. The history of our company cannot be told without Myers Tire Supply business. MTS is where the company began here in Akron, where we are headquartered. It is a business with strong market position, leading brand with loyal customers and great people. However, as we move forward with our Focused Transformation and create a portfolio of businesses that align with our mission of protecting assets from the ground up and provide us with the opportunity to apply our competitive advantages for high- return applications, we have determined that this business may achieve greater success under different ownership where it can benefit from focused investment. One of our Focused Transformation objectives is to create clear strategies to improve the profitability of our overall portfolio. The strategic review process we are launching will enable us to achieve this as well as simplify and focus our portfolio on core businesses that align with our mission. The second update we are providing today is the consolidation of our rotational molding production capacity. We have reviewed our operating footprint and decided that we will idle 2 of our 9 rotational molding facilities, better utilizing our operating assets. These actions will result in annual savings of at least $3 million. Production from these facilities will be consolidated into other facilities as needed. Lastly, we are on track to deliver $20 million in cost savings, primarily SG&A by the end of 2025. With the manufacturing consolidation, we have line of sight to $18 million, well on our way to our $20 million goal. With 6 months left, we feel confident in achieving this full year target. With those 3 announcements as a backdrop, let us turn to Slide 7 and review the 4 objectives of our Focused Transformation program and summarize our progress. We start with establishing a culture of execution and accountability to drive performance. Across the organization, we are emphasizing lean principles to drive clear, efficient processes. We are already seeing positive impacts from this focus as the team creates and rallies behind action plans that get us back on track to prioritize work that adds profit. This leads us to our second objective to create clear strategies with action plans and specific KPIs to improve the profitability of our entire portfolio. A significant step in meeting this objective is the MTS strategic review. Completing this will enable us to devote more resources and effort to driving performance in the remaining businesses and target our investments to high-growth markets aligned with our competitive advantages. Our third objective is to deliver consistent and reliable results by effectively controlling what we can control. I already discussed our path to achieving the $20 million target with the majority of savings driven by organizational and footprint consolidation, followed by a reduction in outside services. The team is doing a great job of controlling costs, and I'm confident will help us significantly improve our margin profile. Our fourth and final objective is to optimize cash flow and support disciplined capital allocation deployment. We are proud to report strong free cash flow generation of $25 million in the quarter. This allows us to continue investing in organic growth with CapEx of around 3% of sales and focusing on high-growth opportunities that deliver superior returns. We also continue to ensure our balance sheet is strong with repayment of debt. We have established a good foundation with our disciplined and balanced capital allocation approach that we can build on to enhance shareholder value into the future. I am pleased with the progress we are making against our Focused Transformation objectives and confident in our team's ability to deliver improved financial results from the changes we are making. Turning to Slide 8. We have made significant progress over the first 6 months of 2025. It is clear that 2025 is a year of Focused Transformation, one that began with building a strong foundation of corporate culture that drives high performance through execution and accountability. On top of this, we added financial discipline with $20 million in cost savings and $10 million share buyback program. With today's announcements, we have made a large significant step to simplify and focus our portfolio with the MTS strategic review. We are also rationalizing our operations with the consolidation of rotational molding production. Looking forward, we anticipate sharing more details with you before the end of 2025 on our updated strategy, including our platforms for growth, competitive advantages to differentiate Myers, strength aligned to our high-performing assets and value creation for our shareholders. This is an exciting time to be associated with Myers, and I'm excited to see what we'll be able to accomplish. With that, I will turn the call over to Dan to discuss our second quarter results and updated market outlook. Dan?
Daniel W. Hoehn:
Thank you, Aaron, and good morning, everyone. Turning to our financial results on Slide 10. Second quarter net sales were $209.6 million, down 4.8% from last year. Revenue was lower in both segments. Strong sales of our military products and our industrial end market were offset by lower sales in vehicle and automotive aftermarket. We remain confident in second half growth based on our strong backlog for both military products in the industrial end market and for infrastructure products, along with continuing positive customer bookings. The adjusted gross margin fell 220 basis points to 33.9% due to the lower volume, product sales mix and lower pricing, primarily in the Distribution segment. Adjusted operating income decreased to $22.8 million, with margin compressing 220 basis points to 10.9% of sales. We reduced adjusted SG&A expenses 5%, keeping them essentially flat as a percentage of sales as we are beginning to see results from our Focused Transformation initiatives. As these actions continue to be completed, plus the expected benefit from the strategic moves that Aaron mentioned earlier, SG&A will continue to decrease through the balance of the year. When 2024 is normalized for incentive compensation and to include a full year of Signature results, we have taken actions to achieve $15 million of run rate savings as of June. The production consolidation we announced today will bring us to $18 million, and we have a pipeline of opportunities to achieve the full $20 million of run rate savings by the end of the year. To date, savings have primarily come from reduced workforce, most of which was implemented at the end of the second quarter, reductions in spend on outside services and reduced operating footprint. In connection with idling 2 of our 9 rotational molding operating facilities, we expect costs of up to $14 million, including approximately $1 million of cash costs, approximately $4 million of noncash write-downs and additional expected costs related to long-term facility leases. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 15.7% and diluted adjusted earnings per share were $0.31. Turning to Slide 11. Material Handling net sales were down 4.4% as strong sales of military products in our industrial end market were offset by lower volume in vehicle and other end markets. Within vehicle, we saw lower demand from heavy truck and auto manufacturers, while RV and marine remained flat. Within food and beverage, the cyclically low seed box demand continued, but we expect that demand to improve in the second half. In addition, project timing and tariff-driven order delays impacted the infrastructure end market during the quarter. Material Handling adjusted EBITDA margin was 23.9%, slightly lower than last year, primarily due to lower volumes and to a lesser extent, pricing. Distribution net sales decreased 6% on lower pricing and also lower volume from our Patch Rubber business. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 4.8%. We are beginning to see market stabilization and the positive impact of actions we took in 2024 to reduce expense and improve margins, including distribution center consolidation. As a reminder, our Distribution segment includes Myers Tire Supply, which had trailing 12-month sales of $189 million as of June and Patch Rubber, which had trailing 12-month sales of $26 million, including intercompany sales. Turning to Slide 12. Operating cash flow was $28.3 million. This is an improvement of $18.2 million sequentially and $14 million from the prior year on improved cash generation from working capital. CapEx was $3.6 million, which was slightly lower than the prior year. This resulted in free cash flow of $24.7 million in the quarter, up $22.7 million sequentially and up $14.8 million from the prior year. At June 30, we had $239.7 million of availability under our revolving credit facility and cash on hand of $41.3 million, providing us with additional flexibility to support our capital allocation priorities. Please turn to Slide 13. We reduced debt by $13 million in the second quarter, bringing total debt to $379 million. Our net leverage ratio was 2.8x. We remain committed to achieving our target ratio of 1.5x to 2.5x. We repurchased $0.5 million in shares during the quarter, bringing total year-to-date repurchases to $1.5 million. This leaves $8.5 million available under our current authorization. We plan to continue making opportunistic share repurchases to complement our ongoing dividends as part of our capital allocation strategy to return cash to shareholders. Turning to Slide 14. We are reconfirming our market outlook for 2025 that was provided during our first quarter earnings call. We still see both risks and opportunities for the businesses, and we'll continue to monitor end market conditions for impacts from tariffs or other factors that may influence demand trends. Let me review our expectations by market. Industrial should continue with moderate growth, driven by demand for military products as militaries around the world replenish their inventories as evidenced by a strong backlog. We now expect sales of our military products to exceed $40 million for the full year of 2025. We expect sales growth to be partially offset by lower sales of bulk container and organizational products. In infrastructure, ongoing strong project spending supported by material conversion from wood matting should continue to support strong growth. This is reinforced by our strong backlog for these infrastructure products, along with an expanding customer base with new customers contributing over 20% of revenue so far this year, a pace ahead of what we saw in 2024. We expect the vehicle end market to be down as a result of economic uncertainty driven by developing tariff impacts. This end market includes RV, marine, heavy truck and automotive manufacturing customers. In consumer, we anticipate stable sales of fuel containers and an expected return to a more normalized storm season. As a reminder, hurricane-driven sales are largely dependent on the location and preparation time for approaching storms. Our food and beverage end market, which includes agriculture, is projected to be stable for the full year. While there have been headwinds with some of our food processing customers, we are currently expecting second half improvement with our agricultural customers led by seed boxes. Automotive aftermarket distribution is expected to be slightly down. We are working to stabilize this business as we improve our cost structure, pricing, sales territory alignment and digital sales strategy. We will continue to look for opportunities to expand our market presence and deliver solutions to our customers. At the same time, we expect financial results to improve as we make progress on our focused transformation. I would now like to turn the call back to Aaron for some closing comments before we take your questions. Aaron?
Aaron M. Schapper:
Thank you, Dan. We've made significant progress over the first 6 months of our Focused Transformation journey. The pace of our progress accelerated with today's announcements regarding the strategic review of MTS, rotational molding production capacity consolidation and confirmation of achieving our cost reduction goals. While these actions will not complete our transformation, they bring us much closer to our goals. With strong support and leadership from our Board of Directors, we are clarifying our mission and laying a solid foundation upon which we are building our long-term strategy. I'm very pleased with our progress and more confident on our journey towards success. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for questions.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Christian Zyla with KeyCorp.
Christian Zyla:
Very exciting news in today. Aaron, you launched Focused Transformation a couple of quarters ago, and it's clear you really meant it. Just first question, was there a final straw that broke the camel's back that got you to this point? Or was it a culmination of what you're seeing in your business and the market? Just any overall thoughts of the process of how you got here.
Aaron M. Schapper:
Yes. So this -- the MTS piece has been -- it's been an internal topic of discussion for some time. So coming in here, I grew up in manufacturing, manufacturing in my background, but I really knew kind of the agriculture and more of the infrastructure businesses. And so with my move to Myers, I really felt the need to take some time to learn the auto industry, and that primarily meant gathering data, gathering inputs and opinions from people that knew the business, knew it better than I did and to make sure that I spent time meeting with customers, meeting with stakeholders and meeting with our Board and just gathering all the data needed for the decision to do the strategic review for MTS. And so the first 6 months was really just to take the proper time to do the evaluation, Christian.
Christian Zyla:
Got it. Understood. Again, exciting news regardless of what happens. It's good to see actual changes being talked about and coming to fruition. I guess next question is just on the backlog. This is probably one of the first times we've heard you guys talking about a backlog, and it's very encouraging to see the soft guidance for 3Q sales. How big is the backlog relative to sales? And how much visibility does that give you? Is that backlog primarily Signature related? Or have you seen order patterns changing? Or is there something different that's being changed with customer order patterns?
Daniel W. Hoehn:
So when we think about our infrastructure sales, so for the composite matting, right, those tend to be large projects. So you get a little bit of visibility into how those are going to unfold. So for that business and as we grow in military, we'll see more backlog in those specific areas. I think for the other businesses, it depends, and we see a lot more kind of book and bill as we go. So we're really encouraged by the large backlog that we're seeing in those 2 areas, and it does give us a lot of confidence as we go into the back half.
Christian Zyla:
Got it. And if I could just sneak in one more question. Free cash flow of $25 million in the quarter was exceptionally strong. What drove that? Is there some seasonality in there that we should be thinking of? And then just bigger picture, can you give us a sense of what you could or should do annually for free cash flow, assuming both scenarios of keeping or not keeping distribution within Myers. Just how do we think about your annual potential?
Daniel W. Hoehn:
Yes. So obviously, I think the cash flow is indicative of what we can and should be doing, right? Remember, we talked about timing in the last quarter. We clearly made that up and then some a little bit. And historically, we've had a little bit more cash flow in the back half. So as you think about that, I expect similar trends this year. Now there can be timing from quarter-to-quarter. As I mentioned, with some of these large backlog orders, they tend to ship in large chunks as well. So any one quarter might not be indicative. But on a general trend, I think we're showing what the business can do. I think the -- if you look at the EBITDA mix between our 2 segments, you can get an idea of what that does with our cash flow with and without MTS.
Operator:
The next question is from the line of Anna C. Jolly with Gabelli & Company, Inc.
Carolina Jolly:
It's Carolina. Just, I guess, the first one, what gives you confidence, I think, in the rebound in seed boxes in the second half of the year?
Aaron M. Schapper:
Yes. So really, it comes from our customers, looking at what our customers' demand is in the back half of the year. And they will put in orders and give us an indication of kind of the seed box need that they're going to need. And we've already been working on orders for replacement parts as well. So when we look at the replacement parts, it gives us kind of a general idea that the back half of the year. And the normal seasonality for those seed boxes is the back half of the year anyway. And so it's good to kind of get feedback from our customers, understand what they're seeing out there, and that's what gives us confidence in the back half of the year will be better on the seed box side.
Carolina Jolly:
Perfect. And then also, I know the Signature acquisition was back in the beginning of 2024. So I'd still just be interested in any commentary on how the company is being integrated and the progress there?
Aaron M. Schapper:
Yes. Let's -- the Signature culture is a great add to Myers in general. We're happy to have them on board. I think that they bring a unique set of operational talents that we're actually able to really utilize across more of our material handling footprint. So what you're going to see is the talent operations folks are working with our rest of the Myers industry operations group to share best practices and do what they do best and then Myers teaches them what we do best. So I think between the 2, it really is a good synergy of operations and looking at the operations side of the business. Additionally, having Signature adds a real growth opportunity for us in the infrastructure side of the business. Obviously, my background on the infrastructure side is complementary. So we're really excited to take Signature and grow that business and look at other growth opportunities in the year. And we're also excited to be talking about that. I mean, we talked about doing a strategic review later in November. So we're excited to come back and talk to you and the market about what we're doing in the infrastructure business and how we intend to grow and intend to grow our portfolio on that side of the business.
Operator:
The next question is from the line of William Dezellem with Tieton \Capital Management.
William Joseph Dezellem:
That's Bill Dezellem. And let me switch to Signature's tariff impact. Did we hear correctly in the opening remarks that there was some weakness tied to tariffs? And if so, would you help us understand the mechanics of how that impact happened?
Daniel W. Hoehn:
Yes. Sure, Bill. I think when we think about the tariffs, it's a similar story to what we talked about in the past and that our input costs are largely unaffected. We have a small amount within the distribution business. But we do have a small but growing part of export sales. And what we've seen is some customers kind of delaying purchases as they just wait for some certainty or weigh those additional tariff costs. So there's still a lot of interest in our product for the applications that our customers are using, and they're just -- it can affect the timing of those sales or has affected the timing of those sales.
Aaron M. Schapper:
Yes. And Bill, as we expect some of these kind of tariff resolutions as we're kind of rolling through the summer, I mean, we're hoping that those are disconnections in the market on a short-term basis. But Signature does have an export business, and it was affected by kind of that uncertainty in the quarter.
William Joseph Dezellem:
And has that cleared up? Or is there still enough uncertainty -- maybe I should ask, where are those sales going? And I guess the clarity will be whether we have a final deal or not with those countries?
Aaron M. Schapper:
Yes. Specifically, there were really -- that one was both Europe and Canada at the time. And so we do have some resolution, which is good, both with the latest Europe resolution. So we do have some resolution. So we hope to not have those kind of disconnects in the next quarter.
William Joseph Dezellem:
And then just taking this one step further, if -- is there a level of tariff that's currently being talked about with Canada in particular, that would essentially eliminate those sales. And so that's a risk that you have to deal with? Or is that not a factor here?
Aaron M. Schapper:
No, I don't believe that will be a big factor going forward. I think that when you're going through the different pieces and parts of the tariffs, I think more than anything else, people just want resolution one way or the other. And then I think the market has stabilized. We're comfortable with our position in the market. We're comfortable with our pricing in the market. I think it's just there's always caution and a little bit of uncertainty when you don't know what that next tariff rate is going to be or by the time you get -- because these are -- look, remember, these are backlog orders. And then when you get to the final projects that are usually planned well in advance. And so when you finally get to the final shipping dates, you want to know that the policy is going to be the same as what you budgeted for. So when you look at it with that infrastructure lens and that kind of backward lens, it makes a little more sense that you'd like to have that certainty of tariff rate out there. And so as we kind of get to resolution, I think that, that noise will go away.
William Joseph Dezellem:
That's very helpful. And then relative to the 2 idled rotational molding lines, do you anticipate that if volume increases that those lines will be needed? Do you anticipate moving those lines to other locations? So let's fill out the big picture on those -- on that situation for us, please?
Aaron M. Schapper:
Yes. So there are 2 rotational molding plants, not just production lines that are going to be idled. So look, the rotational molding kind of operational footprint was built during a really strong automotive, very strong RV backdrop in lens where there was pretty brisk market conditions at the time. And so just looking at the operational footprint and especially looking at -- when we look at OEs and other operational metrics, as we could do a lot more with the footprint that we currently have. So -- and looking at efficiencies and looking at the size of those 2 plants that they're not needed at this time. Now obviously, we have options, and we always like to keep our options open on the backside for those plants in the future. But right now, that capacity is not needed. And so our customers have also been looking closely at capacity. We're just aligning with our customers' needs and making sure that we provide the most efficient operational structure for them.
William Joseph Dezellem:
And those 2 plants, are they owned or leased? You're trying to understand how you're thinking about the physical facilities with time.
Aaron M. Schapper:
Yes, there are 2 leased facilities.
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