KN (2025 - Q2)

Release Date: Jul 24, 2025

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Current Financial Performance

Knowles Corp Q2 2025 Highlights

$146 million
Revenue
+8%
$0.24
EPS
+20%
$36 million
Cash from Operations
44.3%
Gross Margin

Key Financial Metrics

MedTech & Specialty Audio Revenue

$67 million
10%

Precision Devices Revenue

$79 million
6%

MedTech & Specialty Audio Gross Margin

50.6%
2.8%

Precision Devices Gross Margin

38.7%
1.5%

R&D Expense

$9 million

SG&A Expense

$28 million

Interest Expense

$3 million
50%

Period Comparison Analysis

Revenue

$146 million
Current
Previous:$205 million
28.8% YoY

EPS

$0.24
Current
Previous:$0.24

MedTech & Specialty Audio Revenue

$67 million
Current
Previous:$60 million
11.7% YoY

Precision Devices Revenue

$79 million
Current
Previous:$74 million
6.8% YoY

Gross Margin Total Company

44.3%
Current
Previous:41.1%
7.8% YoY

Cash from Operations

$36 million
Current
Previous:$25 million
44% YoY

Interest Expense

$3 million
Current
Previous:$7 million
57.1% YoY

Earnings Performance & Analysis

Q2 2025 Revenue vs Guidance

Actual:$146 million
Estimate:High end of guided range
0

Q2 2025 EPS vs Guidance

Actual:$0.24
Estimate:Midpoint of guided range
0

Q3 2025 Revenue Guidance

$144M - $154M

Q3 2025 EPS Guidance

$0.29 - $0.33

Q3 2025 Adjusted EBIT Margin

22% - 24%

Financial Health & Ratios

Key Financial Ratios

0.7x
Net Leverage Ratio
$190 million
Debt
$103 million
Cash
$350 million+
Liquidity

Surprises

Revenue Beat

+8%

$146 million

In Q2, we had a strong quarter, delivering revenue of $146 million, up 8% year-over-year, and cash from operations of $36 million, both exceeding the high end of our guided range.

EPS Beat

+20%

$0.24

EPS of $0.24 was above the midpoint of the guided range, up 20% year-over-year.

Cash from Operations Beat

$36 million

Cash from operations of $36 million, both exceeding the high end of our guided range.

Gross Margin Sequential Improvement

200 basis points

As expected, gross margins in the second quarter improved 200 basis points sequentially, and we expect gross margins to remain in the low-50% range in the second half of the year.

Impact Quotes

The applications that our products serve in medtech markets such as hearing aids and devices that our capacitors are in, such as implantables, imaging and ventilators to name a few, have traditionally been considered essential.

With customers depending on our ability to develop -- deliver unique solutions, I would note the demand for MSA products continues to be strong as we head into Q3, giving me confidence in the expected year-over-year growth within our MSA business.

We are executing on the strategy of leveraging our unique technologies, creating custom products through our customer application intimacy and then scaling into production with a world-class operational capability for end markets with strong secular growth trends.

We continue to expect to generate operating cash flow of 16% to 20% of revenues for full year 2025.

I think we're pretty fully booked already for Q3 with our lead times and our strong intimacy with our customers, we have a pretty good view of Q3.

The inductor line is going to take a little longer. We just introduced that product category last week. It builds off of our ceramic capacitor capabilities or ceramic inductors.

Our net leverage ratio, based on trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA, was 0.7x, and we have liquidity of more than $350 million as measured by cash plus unused capacity under our revolving credit facility.

The tariff situation continues to be fluid, we are further along in our analysis and still believe Knowles is well positioned as it relates to the direct and indirect impacts of tariffs.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Knowles' exposure to tariffs is less than 5% of revenue and 3% of COGS due to proximity manufacturing and localized sourcing.
  • Success in passing tariff costs to customers in Q2, with expectations to continue doing so.
  • Primary end markets (medtech, defense, industrial) are insulated from tariff impacts, with medtech and defense considered essential and resilient.
  • Tariff situation remains fluid but the company believes it is well-positioned to mitigate risks.
  • Strong bookings in Q2, with a book-to-bill ratio above 1.15 in the Precision Devices segment, indicating robust demand.
  • Broad-based demand across medtech, defense, industrial, and distribution channels.
  • New initiatives like specialty film expansion and inductor line are expected to boost future growth.
  • The inductor product, launched last week, is expected to generate significant revenue starting around 24 months from now.
  • Q2 bookings trends in Precision Devices are strong, with three consecutive quarters of positive bookings.
  • Demand in Hearing Health rebounded in Q2 after a slowdown in Q1 due to macroeconomic uncertainty.
  • July bookings are already strong, indicating continued momentum into Q3.
  • Expansion of the specialty film production line is expected to start contributing to revenue by mid-2024.
  • The specialty film business is projected to grow significantly in the second half of 2025 and into 2026.
  • This expansion is part of the company's strategy to increase TAM and drive organic growth.
  • The inductor line, building on ceramic capacitor capabilities, was introduced last week.
  • Expected to start generating meaningful revenue approximately 24 months from launch.
  • This product aims to expand the company's addressable market and drive future growth.
  • Market conditions for M&A have recently started to reopen after a pause in early 2025.
  • The company maintains a disciplined approach to acquisitions, focusing on consolidation, extensions, and adjacencies.
  • Strong cash flow and low leverage provide optionality for future acquisitions and share repurchases.
  • Gross margins in Q2 were 50.6%, down 280 basis points YoY due to product mix and higher factory costs.
  • Sequential margin improvement expected to continue, with margins in the low-50% range for H2 2025.
  • Higher volumes and capacity utilization are expected to support margin expansion.
  • Medtech and defense markets are considered essential and resilient, with demand gaining strength.
  • Industrial market remains sensitive to recessions but currently shows no demand impact.
  • Demand for hearing aids and implantables remains strong, supporting revenue stability.
  • Q2 revenue of $146 million, up 8% YoY, exceeding guidance.
  • EPS of $0.24, up 20% YoY, also above guidance.
  • Cash from operations of $36 million, driven by timing of collections and foreign currency hedge settlements.
  • Share repurchases of $30 million in Q2, with cash balance of $103 million and net leverage ratio of 0.7x.
  • Q3 revenue guidance of $144-$154 million.
  • Expected gross margins to improve sequentially, remaining in the low-50% range.
  • Projected EPS range of $0.29-$0.33, with continued year-over-year and sequential growth.

Key Insights:

  • Adjusted EBIT margin for Q3 projected at 22% to 24%.
  • Capital spending for Q3 expected at $11 million, with full year 2025 capital spending around 5% of revenues.
  • Cash from operations for Q3 expected between $20 million and $30 million.
  • Company expects to sustain sequential and year-over-year revenue and earnings growth for remainder of 2025.
  • Effective tax rate expected between 13% and 17% in Q3.
  • EPS guidance for Q3 is $0.29 to $0.33 per share.
  • Interest expense for Q3 estimated at $2 million including noncash imputed interest.
  • Longer term, organic growth rates are expected to increase beyond historical levels due to new initiatives like specialty film production line expansion and new product lines such as inductors.
  • Q3 2025 revenue guidance is $144 million to $154 million.
  • Q3 R&D expenses expected between $8 million and $10 million.
  • Q3 SG&A expenses expected between $25 million and $27 million.
  • Focus on custom engineered products delivered at scale for markets with strong secular growth trends.
  • Knowles continues to focus on proximity manufacturing and geographic sourcing to minimize tariff impacts, with less than 5% revenue exposure to tariffs.
  • MedTech & Specialty Audio segment showed strong sequential and year-over-year growth, driven by Hearing Health and Specialty Audio demand.
  • Precision Devices segment saw broad-based revenue increases across OEM and distribution partners, with positive bookings trends for three consecutive quarters.
  • Robust pipeline of new design wins across all markets served, leveraging unique technologies and customer application intimacy.
  • Share repurchases of $30 million funded by strong cash flow generation.
  • The company is expanding specialty film production line and recently announced a new inductor product line to expand total addressable market (TAM).
  • The company successfully passed tariff-related cost increases to customers without loss of business.
  • Both executives expressed optimism about growth opportunities in 2025 and beyond, supported by operational execution and strategic initiatives.
  • CEO Jeffrey Niew emphasized the resilience of MedTech markets and essential nature of products like hearing aids and implantables.
  • CFO John Anderson detailed strong cash flow generation, improved gross margins in Precision Devices, and disciplined capital allocation including share buybacks and manageable debt levels.
  • He highlighted the strength in defense programs and noted increasing demand in industrial markets despite macroeconomic uncertainties.
  • He reiterated the company’s disciplined approach to M&A, focusing on consolidation, extensions, and adjacencies, with a strong pipeline but no immediate announcements.
  • Jeffrey expressed confidence in continued organic growth acceleration driven by design wins and normalized distribution inventory.
  • Management expects gross margin improvements driven by capacity utilization and higher production volumes in key segments.
  • Company expects sequential and year-over-year revenue growth in Q4 2025 despite not providing formal guidance for that quarter yet.
  • Company plans to continue share repurchases in the second half of 2025.
  • Gross margins expected to improve sequentially by at least 100 basis points in Q3 and remain stable in Q4, driven by capacity utilization in high-performance capacitors and MSA segments.
  • Hearing Health demand bounced back in Q2 after a brief Q1 slowdown due to macroeconomic uncertainty, with expectations for year-over-year growth in both segments for full year 2025.
  • M&A pipeline is active with a disciplined approach; market had frozen earlier in the year but is reopening.
  • New inductor product line introduced recently, with revenue expected to start in about 24 months.
  • Specialty film production line expansion will start contributing significant growth in the back half of 2025 and into 2026.
  • Strong bookings in Precision Devices segment with book-to-bill ratio above 1.15 in Q2, broad-based across medical, defense, industrial, and distribution partners.
  • Capital spending is increasing to support capacity expansion, particularly for the specialty film line.
  • Cash from operations included $8 million used to settle supplier obligations related to the Consumer MEMS Microphones business sold last year.
  • Liquidity position is strong with cash plus unused revolving credit capacity exceeding $350 million.
  • MedTech products are considered essential and historically resilient to economic shocks and recessions.
  • Net leverage ratio is low at 0.7x, providing financial flexibility.
  • Tariff exposure remains low at less than 5% of revenue and 3% of cost of goods sold.
  • Demand in defense programs appears to be gaining strength based on recent order activity.
  • Distribution inventory levels have normalized, supporting stronger order activity and bookings.
  • Organic growth over a cycle is expected to be 4% to 6%, trending toward the higher end currently.
  • The company is focused on markets with strong secular growth trends: medtech, defense, and industrial.
  • The company’s proximity manufacturing strategy helps mitigate tariff risks by aligning production and sourcing geographically.
  • The inductor product line builds on ceramic capacitor capabilities and aims to expand the TAM over the next 1-2 years.
Complete Transcript:
KN:2025 - Q2
Operator:
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. My name is Kelvin, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 2025 Knowles Corporation Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Sarah Cook. Please go ahead. Sarah Co
Sarah Cook:
Thank you, and welcome to our second quarter 2025 earnings call. I'm Sarah Cook, Vice President of Investor Relations. And presenting with me today are Jeffrey Niew, our President and CEO; and John Anderson, our Senior Vice President and CFO. Our call today will include remarks about future expectations, plans and prospects for Knowles, which constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provisions under the applicable federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements in this call will include comments about demand for company products, anticipated trends in company sales, expenses and profits and involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations. The company urges investors to review the risks and uncertainties in the company's SEC filings, included but not limited to, the annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2024, periodic reports filed from time to time with the SEC, and the risks and uncertainties identified in today's earnings release. All forward-looking statements are made as of the date in this call, and Knowles disclaims any duty to update such statements, except as required by law. In addition, pursuant to Reg G, any non-GAAP financial measures referenced during today's conference call can be found in our press release posted on our website at knowles.com, and in our current Form 8-K filed today with the SEC. This will include a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measure. All financial references on this call will be on a non-GAAP continuing operations basis, with the exception of cash from operations or unless otherwise noted. We've made selected financial information available on webcast slides, which can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website. With that, let me turn the call over to Jeff who will provide details on our results. Jeff?
Jeffrey Niew:
Thanks, Sarah, and thanks to all of you for joining us today. As the tariff situation continues to evolve, I will provide a brief update before my commentary on our second quarter results and the market outlook. Although the tariff situation continues to be fluid, we are further along in our analysis and still believe Knowles is well positioned as it relates to the direct and indirect impacts of tariffs. As I previously said, we are generally a proximity manufacturer, meaning the vast majority of our products built in the U.S. are shipped within the U.S., and products built in Asia shipped to customers in Asia and Europe. Couple this with our philosophy of sourcing materials geographically close to our production facilities and our total exposure to tariffs is less than 5% of revenue and 3% of cost of goods sold. In Q2, we have had success in passing these additional costs on to our customers, and our expectation is to continue to do so without loss of business. Additionally, I believe the primary end markets we serve in medtech, defense and the industrial sectors will be relatively insulated from the impacts of tariffs. Let me reiterate what I previously said. The applications that our products serve in medtech markets such as hearing aids and devices that our capacitors are in, such as implantables, imaging and ventilators to name a few, have traditionally been considered essential. As these products are essential, our historical experience shows economic shocks and subsequent recessions can have modest short-term impacts to these markets, but tend to have very little impact over the course of a full year. I also believe the defense programs we participate in are secure, and based on our recent order activity, demand appears to be gaining strength. Finally, the industrial market has been more sensitive than medtech and defense to recessions, but we are currently not seeing any impact on demand. We are obviously continuing to monitor this closely. Now I'll turn to our results. In Q2, we had a strong quarter, delivering revenue of $146 million, up 8% year-over-year, and cash from operations of $36 million, both exceeding the high end of our guided range. EPS of $0.24 was above the midpoint of the guided range, up 20% year-over-year. Our business units continue to execute to the plan based on the strategy we laid out at our Investor Day. Now turning to our segments. In Q2, MedTech & Specialty Audio revenue was $67 million, up 13% sequentially and 10% year-over-year. We saw strength in both our Specialty Audio business and in the Hearing Health market in Q2. Very similar to what we have seen historically, there was a brief slowdown in demand for Hearing Health products due to macroeconomic uncertainty in Q1, with sequential and year-over-year growth returning in Q2. The Hearing Health business continues to be resilient as these products are considered essential devices. With customers depending on our ability to develop -- deliver unique solutions, I would note the demand for MSA products continues to be strong as we head into Q3, giving me confidence in the expected year-over-year growth within our MSA business. In the Precision Devices segment, Q2 revenue was $79 million, up 8% sequentially and 6% year-over-year. Revenue increased across all our end markets for both OEM and distribution partners. In Q2, bookings trends building on Q1 continue to be strong for the Precision Device segment. I would note this is the third consecutive quarter with positive bookings trends. The bookings trends was broad-based across most of our end markets and the distribution demand has returned as we believe inventory levels have normalized. We continue to collaborate with our customers, leading to a robust pipeline of new design wins as our customers continue to choose our innovative and differentiated solutions across all the markets we serve. Overall for Knowles, as we noted at the Investor Day, with the acceleration of design wins and order activity, we are positioned well for organic growth in 2025. Beyond 2025, we expect an increase of organic growth rates from the historical levels as new initiatives such as the expansion of our specialty film production line comes online. Additionally, new products such as our inductor line, which we just announced last week, has the potential to expand our TAM and drive future growth. We are executing on the strategy of leveraging our unique technologies, creating custom products through our customer application intimacy and then scaling into production with a world-class operational capability for end markets with strong secular growth trends. It is proving to be a winning combination, leading to the beat in revenue and EPS this quarter, and I believe it will allow us to continue to expand our margin profile. In the second quarter, we repurchased $30 million in shares, which was funded by robust cash generation from operations. We believe our strong cash generation will allow us to pursue synergistic acquisitions and buy back shares while continuing to keep our debt at very manageable levels. In summary, as we enter the third quarter of 2025, I am excited by the momentum and strength the business demonstrated and the growth opportunities that we have in front of us, both in the near and longer term. As I think about our growth potential in 2025, distribution inventory appears to have normalized and as orders are increasing and our design wins continue to be strong across our product portfolio. This is driving increased demand for our products, which gives me confidence we have entered a period of accelerated organic growth. We are laser-focused on what we do best, designing custom engineered products and delivering them at scale for customers and markets that value our solutions, positioning us well for growth beyond 2025. Now let me turn the call over to John to detail our quarterly results and provide our Q3 guidance.
John Anderson:
Thanks, Jeff. We reported second quarter revenues of $146 million, up 8% from the year ago period and above the high end of our guidance range. EPS was $0.24 in the quarter, up $0.04 or 20% from the year ago period and above the midpoint of our guidance range. Cash generated by operating activities was $36 million, exceeding the high end of our guidance range, driven by timing of collection activities, lower-than-anticipated inventory and payments received in connection with settlement of foreign currency hedges. In the MedTech and Specialty Audio segment, Q2 revenue was $67 million, up 10% compared with the year ago period, driven by increased demand in Hearing Health and Specialty Audio. Q2 gross margins were 50.6%, down 280 basis points versus the year ago period, driven by unfavorable product mix and higher factory costs. As expected, gross margins in the second quarter improved 200 basis points sequentially, and we expect gross margins to remain in the low-50% range in the second half of the year. The Precision Devices segment delivered second quarter revenues of $79 million, up 6% from the year ago period. Segment gross margins were 38.7%, up 150 basis points from the second quarter of 2024, as improved pricing and higher production volumes resulted in increased factory capacity utilization in our legacy Precision Devices business. These improvements were partially offset by higher scrap costs and factory inefficiencies as we continue to ramp up the specialty film product line. On a total company basis, R&D expense in the quarter was $9 million, up slightly from Q2 2024 levels. SG&A expenses were $28 million, up $2 million from the prior year levels, driven primarily by annual merit increases and higher incentive compensation costs. Interest expense was $3 million in the quarter and down $2 million from the year ago period as we continue to reduce our debt levels. Now I'll turn to our balance sheet and cash flow. In the second quarter, we generated $36 million in cash from operating activities. It's important to note that cash from operations for the 3 months ended June 30 includes $8 million in cash utilized to settle supplier obligations related to the Consumer MEMS Microphones business, which was sold last year. Capital spending was $5 million in the quarter. We continue to expect to generate operating cash flow of 16% to 20% of revenues for full year 2025. During the second quarter, we repurchased 1.9 million shares at a total cost of $30 million. We exited the quarter with cash of $103 million and $190 million of debt that includes borrowings under our revolving credit facility and an interest-free seller note that was issued in connection with the Cornell acquisition. Lastly, our net leverage ratio, based on trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA, was 0.7x, and we have liquidity of more than $350 million as measured by cash plus unused capacity under our revolving credit facility. Moving to our guidance. For the third quarter of 2025, revenues are expected to be between $144 million and $154 million. R&D expenses are expected to be between $8 million and $10 million. Selling and administrative expenses are expected to be within a range of $25 million to $27 million. We're projecting adjusted EBIT margin for the quarter to be within a range of 22% to 24%. Interest expense in Q3 is estimated at $2 million and includes noncash imputed interest, and we expect an effective tax rate of 13% to 17%. We're projecting EPS to be within a range of $0.29 to $0.33 per share. This assumes weighted average shares outstanding during the quarter of 88.5 million on a fully diluted basis. We're projecting cash generated by operating activities to be within the range of $20 million to $30 million. Capital spending is expected to be $11 million. We expect full year capital spending to be approximately 5% of revenues as we increase investments associated with capacity expansion related to our specialty film line. In conclusion, we resumed year-over-year revenue and earnings growth in both segments in the second quarter. And with the strong backlog and increased order activity, we expect to continue to sustain both sequential and year-over-year revenue and earnings growth for the remainder of 2025. I will now turn the call back over to the operator for the questions-and-answers portion of our call. Operator?
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Christopher Rolland of Susquehanna.
Christopher Rolland:
Congrats on these results. So the guide was nicely ahead of what we were thinking and perhaps what you guys were thinking earlier in the year. If you could speak to maybe the delta, what is providing that upside? And then also any update on demand for the thin film opportunity as well?
Jeffrey Niew:
Yes. So first, I would sit there and say, I think, Chris, as I mentioned on the call, this is the third -- with Q2, the third successive quarter within the PD segment where we've had a book-to-bill over 1. I would note our book-to-bill in Q2 for PD was above 1.15. So we have the very strong bookings quarter again. And it was pretty broad-based. I'd say in the PD segment, it was medical, defense, industrial, it's with our distribution partners as well as with our direct customers. So we're seeing quite a bit of demand on the PD side. I would sit there and say, on the MSA side, on the Hearing Health side, obviously, we saw Q1 be a little bit weaker in the end market, but it bounced right back in Q2. Kind of like we've said in the past, with these essential devices, maybe somebody stays home for a month and delays getting a hearing aid by a month, but it bounced back very nicely. And we're expecting both segments to have year-over-year growth for full year 2025. So it's really pretty broad-based, Chris, across most markets. And I think kind of -- it's, I would say, a little bit of a testament to kind of what we laid out at Investor Day, which is around these three markets, medtech, industrial and defense. And I would add -- one last piece I would add, I was just looking at our bookings for July. July to date, we are already having another strong month of bookings in July already.
Christopher Rolland:
Excellent. And then I know you're not guiding 2 quarters ahead. But without the MEMS business, I think that was maybe -- could create some volatility for Q4. Did you have any early thoughts on how we should be thinking about Q4? And then secondly, just gross margin expansion. Like with these higher volumes, what should we expect from higher utilizations moving forward here?
Jeffrey Niew:
Yes. I'll let John cover the gross margin in a second. Just from a revenue base, obviously, you're correct, we're not guiding Q4. But I would say this, we are expecting year-over-year growth again in Q4, and we expect sequential growth again in Q4. That's what I would sit there and say at this point. I mean, I think we're pretty fully booked already for Q3 with our lead times and our strong intimacy with our customers, we have a pretty good view of Q3. We're starting to get a pretty good view into Q4, but we're still expecting based on the order activity that we'll see year-over-year growth in Q4 as well as sequential growth in Q4.
John Anderson:
Yes. Chris, in terms of gross margins and specifically capacity utilization, we delivered gross margins of 44.3% in Q2. We expect sequential to be at least up 100 basis points or more in Q3 and kind of similar levels in Q4. And again, those improvements over the current 44.3%, as you said, it's primarily driven by capacity utilization in our high-performance caps business and also a little bit in our MSA segment.
Operator:
Your next question comes from the line of Bob Labick from CJS Securities.
Bob Labick:
Congratulations on continued strong performance. Well, congrats on the strong performance. Let's see. You touched on organic growth accelerating [indiscernible] '25. You mentioned the film expansion and inductor lines. I was hoping you could just expand on that a little bit. And the film is for the energy order you talked about on previous calls? Or how should we think about that?
Jeffrey Niew:
Well, the film will be, yes, the energy order, but that won't really start hitting revenue line until probably midyear next year when we'll start delivering that order. So the growth in the specialty film line is actually going to be other customers, mainly medtech, defense and industrial shorter term. But I think here's how I kind of would frame it. If you looked historically, we gave quite a bit of information at the Investor Day. And historically, these businesses that we have owned today, continuing ops have grown over a cycle. They grew at -- we showed 4% organically. We kind of committed that on an organic basis, we think that over a cycle, 4% to 6% now is kind of the growth rate for these businesses. And I would say we're trending toward the higher end of that range right now. And so it's going to be driven by, first, a lot of new design wins in our core. So I think we got good design wins in our core products. But then there's these other expansionary opportunities. I would sit there and say specialty film is going to really start delivering significant growth in the back half of this year as well as into 2026. The inductor line is going to take a little longer. We just introduced that product category last week. It builds off of our ceramic capacitor capabilities or ceramic inductors. And we would hope starting in about 24 months from now, we'd start to see some more significant revenue. So I think I would sit there and say, we've got a lot of design wins in the core, plus we've got some other opportunities that are expanding our TAM and allowing us to grow. So over the next, I would say, year to 2 years, I would sit there and say our growth rate is going to be probably towards the higher end of that organic range that we laid out at the Investor Day.
Bob Labick:
Okay. That sounds great. And then you touched on this, too. Obviously, you had strong cash flow in the quarter. You bought back stock, but you still mentioned M&A as a potential part of the growth over time. Can you talk just a little bit about the M&A market? It has closed up for a couple of companies or industries with all the macro noise. How does it look now? How is your pipeline? What are your opportunities? How do you feel about it?
Jeffrey Niew:
Pipeline is good. I'd say, it's obviously hard to predict exactly when this is all going to come to fruition. We want to be disciplined around this, of course, as we've kind of done in the past. We want to make sure that we're thinking about thoughtful what we do. We said at the Investor Day, there's kind of three types of acquisitions: there's consolidation, there's extensions and there's adjacencies. I'd say, again, Q1 into Q2, the market kind of froze up a little bit on doing M&A. It seems like it's starting to reopen again. So while I don't have anything to announce here today, obviously, and it's hard to predict when things will happen, I think we're being aggressive here in areas where we think we can drive value for the corporation. And so we'll be looking at this. Obviously, we have our metrics. I don't know, John, you want to cover how we look at this, but we're going to be very disciplined about what we do.
John Anderson:
Yes. I mean, Bob, we have a lot of optionality. I would say, with our low leverage and our strong cash flow generation, we continue to have a lot of optionality with respect to capital allocation. As you mentioned, we repurchased 30 million in shares -- $30 million in shares in Q2 at an average price of just under $16. I would say likely that we'll continue to buy back shares in the back half of '25.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] And there are no further questions. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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