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AUPH (2025 - Q2)

Release Date: Jul 31, 2025

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Current Financial Performance

Aurinia Pharmaceuticals Q2 2025 Highlights

$70M
Total Revenue
+22%
$66.6M
Net Product Sales
+21%
$21.5M
Net Income
90%
Gross Margin

Key Financial Metrics

Cash & Investments

$315.1M

As of June 30, 2025

Cash Flow from Operations

$45.5M

6 months ended June 30, 2025

Operating Expenses

$49.9M

Q2 2025

Cost of Revenue

$7.1M

Q2 2025

R&D Expenses

Not explicitly stated for Q2 2025

Period Comparison Analysis

Total Revenue

$70M
Current
Previous:$57.2M
22.4% YoY

Net Product Sales

$66.6M
Current
Previous:$55M
21.1% YoY

Gross Margin

90%
Current
Previous:84%
7.1% YoY

Net Income

$21.5M
Current
Previous:$722,000
2977739.3% YoY

Total Revenue

$70M
Current
Previous:$62.5M
12% QoQ

Net Product Sales

$66.6M
Current
Previous:$60M
11% QoQ

Cash & Investments

$315.1M
Current
Previous:$312.9M
0.7% QoQ

Earnings Performance & Analysis

EPS

$0.16
Current
Previous:$0.01
1500% YoY

EPS

$0.16
Current
Previous:$0.17
5.9% QoQ

2025 Revenue Guidance

Actual:$260M to $270M
Estimate:$250M to $260M
BEAT

2025 Net Product Sales Guidance

Actual:$250M to $260M
Estimate:$240M to $250M
BEAT

Financial Health & Ratios

Key Financial Ratios

90%
Gross Margin Q2 2025
84%
Gross Margin Q2 2024
$49.9M
Operating Expenses Q2 2025
$58.7M
Operating Expenses Q2 2024
$315.1M
Cash & Investments
$45.5M
Cash Flow from Operations 6M 2025

Financial Guidance & Outlook

2025 Revenue Guidance

$260M to $270M

2025 Net Product Sales Guidance

$250M to $260M

Surprises

Revenue Beat

+22%

$70 million (Q2 2025)

For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, total revenue was $70 million and $132.5 million, up 22% and 23%, respectively, from $57.2 million and $107.5 million in the comparable periods of 2024.

Net Product Sales Beat

+21%

$66.6 million (Q2 2025)

Net product sales of LUPKYNIS were $66.6 million and $126.5 million for the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, up 21% and 23%, respectively, from $55 million and $103.1 million in the same periods of 2024.

Cash Flow from Operations Turnaround

$45.5 million (6 months ended June 30, 2025)

For the 6 months ended June 30, 2025, cash flow generated from operations was $45.5 million compared to a negative $2.8 million in cash flow used in operations in the same period of 2024.

Net Income Beat

$21.5 million (Q2 2025)

For the 3 months ended June 30, 2025, net income was $21.5 million or $0.16 of earnings per share compared to $722,000 or $0.01 of earnings per share in the same period of 2024.

Net Income Turnaround

$44.9 million (6 months ended June 30, 2025)

For the 6 months ended June 30, 2025, net income was $44.9 million or $0.33 of earnings per share compared to a net loss of $10 million or $0.07 net loss per share in the same period of 2024.

Gross Margin Improvement

90% (Q2 2025)

For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, gross margin was 90% and 88%, respectively, compared to 84% and 85% in the same periods in 2024.

Impact Quotes

We think there's upwards of 20 to north of 20 different B-cell-mediated diseases that you could look at potentially for these compounds.

We are continuing to be opportunistic with our share repurchase plan and expect to fund any future discretionary share repurchases with cash flows from operations and cash currently on hand.

Rheumatologists are using more of our drug. They're growing at a faster rate than nephrologists right now.

Based on the evidence from the single ascending dose study, we're very confident now that a Q4-week dosing schedule is justified.

Efficient operations and cash flow from operations, however we decide to deploy it is a priority for us as an organization.

The longevity of this asset to us is paramount and it comes to defending the IP that we have around the compound, and it's a priority for the company.

We are very excited about the wide range of therapeutic possibilities for aritinercept, but for competitive reasons, we will not be disclosing further detail about our future plans at this time.

Excluding $11.5 million of cash payments made in connection with the November 2024 restructuring, cash flow generated from operations was $57 million for the 6 months ended June 30, 2025.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Positive Phase I single ascending dose (SAD) study results for Aritinercept, a dual BAFF APRIL inhibitor, with management confident in Q4-week dosing schedule based on pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics.
  • Management emphasizes the wide potential of Aritinercept, citing over 20 B-cell-mediated diseases as possible targets, including indications beyond kidney diseases, though specific plans remain undisclosed for competitive reasons.
  • Further clinical studies for Aritinercept are on track to initiate in at least two autoimmune diseases in the second half of 2025, with internal assessment guiding the broad therapeutic scope.
  • Company is actively moving forward with development plans for at least two B-cell-mediated diseases, with enrollment expected by the end of 2025.
  • Internal strategy involves selecting indications based on evolving clinical data and competitive landscape, with no specific timing disclosed.
  • Management indicates ongoing internal decision-making rather than waiting for competitors' updates, signaling proactive development approach.
  • Management reports increased adoption of LUPKYNIS in rheumatology and hospital settings following the new ACR guidelines.
  • The guidelines, along with supportive clinical data like the extended AURORA study and biopsy substudy, are driving higher prescribing rates, especially among rheumatologists.
  • While not quantitatively measured, the impact of guidelines is viewed as a positive driver for growth in new patient starts and hospital reinitiations.
  • Company has repurchased $138.4 million of shares since Q1 2024, with an approved plan to buy back up to an additional $150 million.
  • Management emphasizes the strategic use of cash flow from operations to fund share repurchases, maintaining flexibility despite increased R&D spending in the future.
  • Strong cash position of $315.1 million as of June 30, 2025, supports ongoing operational needs and strategic initiatives.
  • Total revenue increased by approximately 22-23% in Q2 and first half of 2025, driven by increased LUPKYNIS sales and market penetration.
  • The company raised full-year revenue guidance from $250-$260 million to $260-$270 million, and net product sales guidance from $240-$250 million to $250-$260 million, reflecting confidence in continued growth.
  • Gross margins improved to 90% and 88% for Q2 and 6 months, respectively, partly due to strategic inventory management and sales mix.
  • Operating expenses decreased significantly compared to 2024, primarily due to lower personnel costs following restructuring efforts in 2024.
  • Management highlights ongoing focus on operational efficiency to support growth and profitability.
  • Company maintains patents extending to 2037, with ongoing patent work to defend exclusivity.
  • No change in Paragraph IV patent exclusivity or pediatric extension, emphasizing a focus on IP protection to ensure long-term market presence.
  • Legal and patent strategies are protracted, with no immediate updates expected, but IP remains a key priority.
  • Work on optimizing patient-friendly formulations, including potential auto-injector options, is ongoing for AUR200.
  • Development aims to improve ease of administration, with progress indicating feasibility of achieving these goals based on current data.
  • Formulation work is parallel to clinical development, with no specific completion date yet.
  • Management indicates that detailed data from ongoing studies, including AUR200 and AUR200's next data update, will be disclosed when appropriate, often aligned with public filings or clinical trial registrations.
  • Strategic discretion is maintained to protect competitive advantage, with no fixed timeline for public disclosure of specific indications or study results.
  • While R&D expenses are expected to increase with advancing clinical trials, management emphasizes maintaining operational efficiency and positive cash flow.
  • No specific long-term guidance on R&D costs or cash flow is provided, but the company underscores its financial strength and strategic flexibility to fund pipeline development.

Key Insights:

  • Aritinercept Phase I single ascending dose study showed positive results, and further clinical studies are planned in at least two autoimmune diseases in the second half of 2025.
  • Management expects to initiate enrollment for at least two B-cell-mediated disease indications for aritinercept by the end of 2025.
  • Net product sales guidance for 2025 was raised from $240 million-$250 million to $250 million-$260 million.
  • No specific guidance was provided on future operating expenses or cash flow, but management emphasized maintaining efficient operations and cash flow positivity.
  • The company increased its full year 2025 total revenue guidance from $250 million-$260 million to $260 million-$270 million.
  • The company plans to continue opportunistic share repurchases funded by cash flow and cash on hand, with an increased share repurchase authorization of up to an additional $150 million.
  • Advancement of aritinercept, a dual BAFF APRIL inhibitor, with positive Phase I data supporting a Q4-week dosing schedule.
  • Continued focus on patent protection and intellectual property to ensure longevity of LUPKYNIS through 2037 and beyond.
  • Ongoing formulation work for AUR200 aiming for patient-friendly delivery options such as an auto-injector.
  • Share repurchase program actively deployed with $138.4 million repurchased since Q1 2024 and an additional $150 million authorized.
  • Strategic restructuring in 2024 led to lower personnel expenses and overhead costs, improving operational efficiency.
  • Strong growth in LUPKYNIS sales driven by increased market penetration and uptake by specialty pharmacies.
  • Greg Keenan expressed confidence in the Q4-week dosing schedule for aritinercept based on pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic data.
  • Joe Miller discussed the company's opportunistic approach to share repurchases and the strong cash position supporting future investments.
  • Management highlighted the importance of efficient operations and cash flow generation to fund growth and pipeline development.
  • Management indicated that disclosure of detailed clinical development plans for aritinercept would occur when programs reach certain development phases and are publicly registered.
  • Peter Greenleaf emphasized the wide therapeutic potential of aritinercept across more than 20 B-cell-mediated diseases but withheld specific details for competitive reasons.
  • Peter noted the positive impact of updated ACR guidelines on LUPKYNIS adoption, especially increased prescribing by rheumatologists and hospitals.
  • Aritinercept has potential in over 20 B-cell-mediated diseases; further clinical studies planned but details withheld for competitive reasons.
  • Formulation work for AUR200 aims to develop patient-friendly delivery, possibly including an auto-injector, running in parallel with clinical development.
  • LUPKYNIS sales growth driven by updated ACR guidelines, increased rheumatology prescribing, and hospital adoption.
  • No changes to Paragraph IV exclusivity or pediatric exclusivity; patent protection extends to 2037 with ongoing IP defense efforts.
  • No specific guidance on R&D spend or cash flow beyond 2025; management prioritizes operational efficiency and cash flow positivity.
  • Plans to present aritinercept SAD study data at a future medical meeting, but details and timing are not yet determined.
  • Q4-week dosing schedule for aritinercept supported by Phase I single ascending dose study data.
  • Share repurchase program increased by $150 million; future buybacks depend on Board discretion and cash flow from LUPKYNIS growth.
  • Summer months historically show slower growth or flat sales; guidance range reflects this seasonal trend with potential for continued growth in H2 2025.
  • Legal processes related to ANDA filings and patent infringement lawsuits are expected to be protracted with no frequent updates.
  • Management acknowledges investor appetite for more information on pipeline programs but remains cautious about timing of disclosures.
  • Management is monitoring competitor updates but is focused on internal strategy for selecting indications for aritinercept.
  • The company emphasizes the importance of defending intellectual property to maintain the longevity of LUPKYNIS.
  • The company is not disclosing detailed plans for aritinercept development for competitive reasons.
  • The pediatric trial work was part of the original filing and does not extend exclusivity beyond July 2028.
  • Cash flow from operations is expected to remain significant if LUPKYNIS continues to grow as forecasted.
  • Future clinical trial costs for aritinercept are expected to increase as development progresses beyond Phase I.
  • Management believes the company is uniquely positioned among biotech peers due to positive cash flow and strong balance sheet.
  • Management is committed to maintaining operational efficiency while advancing clinical programs.
  • The company has repurchased 18.3 million common shares for $138.4 million since the start of the buyback program in Q1 2024.
  • The company is balancing growth investments in pipeline development with shareholder returns through buybacks.
Complete Transcript:
AUPH:2025 - Q2
Operator:
Greetings, and welcome to the Aurinia Pharmaceuticals Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Joe Miller, Chief Financial Officer for Aurinia. Thank you. You may begin. Joseph M
Joseph M. Miller:
Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining today's call and webcast. Joining me on the call this morning are Peter Greenleaf, Aurinia's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Dr. Greg Keenan, Aurinia's Chief Medical Officer. Today, we will review and discuss Aurinia's second quarter 2025 financial results and provide an update on recent corporate progress as communicated in the company's press release and quarterly report on Form 10-Q issued this morning. For more information, please refer to Aurinia's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and Canadian securities authorities, which are also available on Aurinia's website at auriniapharma.com. During today's call, Aurinia may make forward-looking statements based on current expectations. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of significant risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of factors that could affect Aurinia's future financial results and business, please refer to the disclosures in Aurinia's press release, quarterly report on Form 10-Q and all other filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and Canadian securities authorities. Please note that all statements made during today's call are current as of today, July 31, 2025, unless otherwise noted and are based upon information currently available to us. Except as required by law, Aurinia assumes no obligation to update any such statements. Now let me turn the call over to Aurinia's President and CEO, Peter Greenleaf. Peter?
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Thanks, Joe, and good morning, everyone. I want to thank everybody for joining us today. On this morning's call, I'll provide an update on our second quarter results and provide an update on all corporate initiatives. I'll then turn the call back over to Joe to provide additional detail on our financial results. We continue to achieve strong growth in total revenue and net product sales in the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025. For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, total revenue was $70 million and $132.5 million, up 22% and 23%, respectively, from $57.2 million and $107.5 million, respectively, in the same periods of 2024. For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, net product sales of LUPKYNIS, the first FDA-approved oral therapy for the treatment of adult patients with active lupus nephritis, or LN, were $66.6 million and $126.5 million, up 21% and 23%, respectively, from $55 million and $103.1 million in the same periods of 2024. The increase for both periods is primarily due to an increase in the number of LUPKYNIS cartons sold to specialty pharmacies, driven by further LN market penetration. For the 6 months ended June 30, 2025, cash flow generated from operations was $45.5 million. This is compared to a negative $2.8 million in cash flow used in operations in the same period of 2024. Excluding $11.5 million in cash payments made in 2025 in connection with the November 2024 restructuring, cash flow generated from operations was $57 million for the 6 months ended June 30, 2025. As of June 30, 2025, we have cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash and investments of $315.1 million. This is compared to $358.5 million at December 31, 2024. For the 6 months ended June 30, 2025, the company repurchased $11.2 million of its common shares for $90.8 million, including commissions and excise tax. As a result of the sustained growth we've seen in the first half of 2025, we are increasing our full year 2025 total revenue guidance from a range of $250 million to $260 million to a range of $260 million to $270 million and our net product sales guidance from a range of $240 million to $250 million to a range of $250 million to $260 million. Finally, we reported positive results from our aritinercept Phase I single ascending dose study on June 30, 2025. Aritinercept is a dual BAFF APRIL inhibitor. It contains a BCMA engineered extracellular binding domain that's optimized for superior affinity to APRIL and BAFF. We remain on track to initiate further clinical studies for aritinercept in at least 2 autoimmune diseases in the second half of this year. We are very excited about the wide range of therapeutic possibilities for aritinercept, but for competitive reasons, we will not be disclosing further detail about our future plans at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Joe for a more detailed review of the second quarter 2025 financial results. I'll then return at the end of the call for a quick recap and to open up the line for any questions you might have. Joe?
Joseph M. Miller:
Thank you, Peter. Let's take a few minutes to discuss the second quarter 2025 financial results. For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, total revenue was $70 million and $132.5 million, up 22% and 23%, respectively, from $57.2 million and $107.5 million in the comparable periods of 2024. As Peter mentioned, we had cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash and investments of $315.1 million as of June 30, 2025, and generated cash flows from operations of $45.5 million compared to $2.8 million in cash flow used in operations in the same period of 2024. Excluding $11.5 million of cash payments made in connection with the November 2024 restructuring, cash flow generated from operations was $57 million for the 6 months ended June 30, 2025. We are continuing to be opportunistic with our share repurchase plan and expect to fund any future discretionary share repurchases with cash flows from operations and cash currently on hand. The company repurchased 18.3 million of its common shares for $138.4 million, excluding commissions and excise tax since the launch of the program in the first quarter of 2024 through today. Additionally, today, we announced that the Board has approved an increase to the share repurchase plan of up to an additional $150 million of common shares over the initially approved $150 million Board authorization. For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, cost of revenue was $7.1 million and $15.7 million, respectively, compared to $8.9 million and $16.7 million in the comparable periods in 2024. The decrease for both periods is primarily due to a decrease in sales of LUPKYNIS inventory to Otsuka, which is sold under a cost- plus arrangement and has a lower gross margin than our other LUPKYNIS sales. For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, gross margin was 90% and 88%, respectively, compared to 84% and 85% in the same periods in 2024. For the 3 and 6 months ended June 30, 2025, total operating expenses were $49.9 million and $90.5 million, respectively, compared to $58.7 million and $122.3 million in the comparable periods of 2024. The decrease for both periods is primarily due to lower personnel expenses, including share-based compensation and overhead costs as a result of our strategic restructuring efforts in 2024. This was partially offset by an increase in R&D-related expenses as we continue to advance our development activities for aritinercept and voclosporin and other noncash expenses related to the remeasurement of our Swiss franc-denominated monoplant finance lease liability and changes in our fair value assumptions related to our deferred compensation liability. For the 3 months ended June 30, 2025, net income was $21.5 million or $0.16 of earnings per share compared to $722,000 or $0.01 of earnings per share in the same period of 2024. For the 6 months ended June 30, 2025, net income was $44.9 million or $0.33 of earnings per share compared to a net loss of $10 million or $0.07 net loss per share in the same period of 2024. With that, I'd like to hand the call back over to Peter for some closing remarks. Peter?
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Thanks, Joe. In summary, we continue to drive growth in the commercial LUPKYNIS business, move forward with the clinical development of aritinercept and maintain excellent operational efficiency. I want to thank you all for your time today. We'll now open the lines for any questions you may have. Operator?
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Stacy Ku with TD Cowen.
Vishwesh Shah:
This is Vish on for Stacy. Congrats on a great quarter. So you reported some encouraging data for aritinercept. And I understand that you're not for competitive reasons, disclosing any details, but could you at least guide us through how you're thinking about the potential for aritinercept? Where do you think it could generate or add the most value so that us and investors could appreciate how you're thinking about the development? And based on the PK/PD data from the SAD study, how are you thinking about maybe potentially doses to be moved forward for the POC studies? And I have one follow-up.
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Yes. I mean I'll start, and I'll ask Greg to jump in where I might miss or where he sees some add-on here. Listen, I think the potential of these B-cell mediated diseases and APRIL/BAFS potential ability to affect these B cell-mediated diseases is apparent today, obviously, in the data that's been rolled out in areas like IgAN. But we, as a company, have done our own assessment internally. We think there's upwards of 20 to north of 20 different B-cell-mediated diseases that you could look at potentially for these compounds. So while we're not disclosing exactly where we're going in our exact approach for competitive reasons at this stage, know that we see a pretty wide open field in terms of other areas that could potentially be addressed even outside of the kidney indications that have been explored to date. So we'll look forward to talking more about that in the future. But at this point, as we've said, we're not disclosing for competitive purposes, but no, we're looking at a range of indications. Greg, do you want to talk maybe a little bit about the dose side of the single ascending dose study?
Gregory F. Keenan:
Sure. Thank you, Peter. Yes, based on the evidence from the single ascending dose study, we're very confident now that a Q4-week dosing schedule is justified with evidence, especially with regard to kinetics, the pharmacokinetics and the pharmacodynamics of -- that we've demonstrated with the single ascending dose. So we think Q4-week dosing will be something we can explore and confidently be able to demonstrate some important evidence as we move forward into the multiple ascending dose studies.
Vishwesh Shah:
Got it. And then my follow-up was on LUPKYNIS. Actually, clearly, the sales are doing well and you're raising guidance. So can you just detail some effects that you are seeing of the updated ACR guidelines on LUPKYNIS adoption? Maybe discuss how rheumatology versus nephrology prescribing is going and what that looks like right now?
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Yes. I think we're encouraged by the guidelines. And I think two evidence points, I guess, I would give you that the guidelines are having some impact, albeit they're not quantitative, they'll give you a directional feel for how they're impacting our business. We've seen a really strong uptick in the number of rheumatology prescribers. The guidelines themselves alongside of -- we've got the 2-year extension of the original AURORA study that's been out there. We had the biopsy substudy that was published in a rheumatology journal. I think that, in combination with the guidelines has driven higher prescribing that we're seeing in rheumatology offices, so an increase there. And then in addition, we're seeing an increase in our hospital business. And I think that's a direct reflection of the academic setting and fellows and teaching institutions adopting those guidelines and using them more proactively. So while it's not a quantitative answer, it can give you a really good feel for how we think they're impacting. Rheumatologists are using more of our drug. They're growing at a faster rate than nephrologists right now. And then in addition, our hospital business has been growing in a healthy way since the guidelines have been published.
Operator:
Our next question comes from the line of Maury Raycroft with Jefferies. James Alexander Stewart Vane-Tempest This is James on for Maury. Congrats on the progress. Just another question on LUPKYNIS and then I have a follow-up question. For the raised guidance, can you talk more about the drivers and what you're seeing from new patient starts and hospital restarts trends in the initial 4 weeks in 3Q and learnings from prior summer months that informs your commercial outlook for 2025?
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Yes. I want to start and then Joe, if I miss anything, please jump in. So I think the best way to think about our guidance range is on the lower end to the midpoint of our revised guidance, you'd have to see either a flattening of our business or a declining of our business in the summer months and back to growth in the back half of the year. The higher end of our guidance range is continued growth through 3Q and 4Q. If you look historically, James, at how our sales have progressed. And as we've said on previous calls, we now think history is probably the best way to predict how this business moves forward. The summer months have -- we've seen a slowing in some of our metrics. In particular, the PSFs have been a little lighter historically in the summer months. And our revenue has been relatively flat to the previous quarter, so flat to 2Q using history. So the way we're looking at our guidance range is the low to mid you see the historical trends, high to beat above is we keep growing quarter-on-quarter. And we're really encouraged by everything we're seeing in the business right now. So we're excited to take up the guidance range, and that's kind of how we're thinking about it, James. James Alexander Stewart Vane-Tempest Got it. And then a second one for your BAFF/APRIL inhibitor aritinercept. Can you talk more about when we can see the next data update from the MAD phase and more on rare/orphan autoimmune diseases that you aim to pursue. What are the gating factors to picking specific disease settings to pursue? Are you waiting for competitor updates? Or is it more related to evolving internal strategy?
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Well, I mean, I wouldn't assume that we're waiting, and I wouldn't assume that we're ruminating on any of this. I would say -- I would assume we're moving forward. We're just not communicating externally for public reasons exactly what our approach is going to be or the timing of those programs. As we've said, we want to go after at least two B-cell-mediated diseases. We're going to get those enrolling by this year, by the end of this year. And we'll look forward in the future to talking more about it. But at this stage, that's all we're giving, James.
Operator:
Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Schwartz with Leerink Partners.
Will Devroe Soghikian:
This is Will on for Joe. Congrats on the progress this quarter. So I just have one on the B-cell program and then a quick follow-up. So on the prior data call, you had mentioned that you were doing some formulation work for AUR200. Is this work still ongoing? Or is it going to be completed prior to the initiation of these future studies later this year? And can you just help us understand the point of this formulation work? Is it specifically to do an auto-injector? Or what's the ultimate goal here? And I have a quick follow-up.
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Yes. As we said on our previous call, Will, our goal would be to try to get it in the most patient-friendly potential formulation and device possible, and that could include an auto-injector. And we actually think looking at the doses we've seen to date, the molecular size that we have -- we could have the possibility to do that. But obviously, once you're in single ascending dose studies, you're not optimized towards -- or at least we haven't to those formulations yet. And that's -- it's parallel pathing with the development work that we're doing. But everything points to us being able to -- from what we've seen in the single ascending dose and in the preclinical work that we've done up to this point that those goals would be attainable.
Will Devroe Soghikian:
Great. And then just quickly, a question for Joe. As we see the development of AUR200 ramp up, how should we be thinking about R&D spend moving forward? And can you help us put some brackets or kind of general commentary around the cost for these trials? And do you expect to remain cash flow positive during the development of this asset?
Joseph M. Miller:
Thanks for the question, Will. We haven't provided any specific guidance on operating expenses and/or cash flows going forward. Obviously, as we are moving through 2025, the trial costs were fairly manageable, and you would expect as you kind of move from Phase I and II and on that the costs will increase. But as of right now, we're not giving any specific long-term guidance on OpEx, R&D expenses and/or cash flows.
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Yes. I think that's right, Joe. And the only thing I would say is it should be evident to investors that efficient operations and cash flow from operations, however we decide to deploy it is a priority for us as an organization. So that won't change on a go-forward basis.
Operator:
Our next question comes from the line of Arthur He with H.C. Wainwright.
Yu He:
Congrats on the decent rise. I just had two questions regarding the 200. So Greg, do you guys plan to present the detail data at any medical conference from the SAD study?
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Greg, maybe can talk to what our intentions are. I think you should just appreciate that, obviously, we have ongoing patent work, et cetera, with the compound. So what's publicly detailed, we would have that ability to do, but stuff that has not yet been publicly talked about, probably not. Greg, any intentions?
Gregory F. Keenan:
No, nothing more than that. It will be presented in an upcoming meeting, but we haven't determined which meeting at this point.
Yu He:
Okay. Got you. And the second question on the 200. So maybe, Peter, I just want to gauge like at what kind of situation or circumstance you guys would be -- feel comfortable to disclose the information about the details of indication going after for the 200. Just curious.
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Well, I mean, the obvious answer is when we move into a certain phase of development, it becomes public information and available on clinicaltrials.gov. So that would be my absolute answer. We haven't really discussed it with our Board, Arthur, or we have, and we've deduced and concluded that for competitive purposes, obviously, we've got people that are ahead of us and behind us, and we want to hold what we're doing close to the vest and ensure that we don't lead people down the path of exactly what we're doing. We haven't determined yet when we would disclose. But do realize from the line of questioning here and on our previous call, that there is a lot of appetite to understand what our plans are.
Operator:
Our next question comes from the line of Doug Miehm with RBC Capital Markets.
Douglas Miehm:
Just with respect to Paragraph IV filers, there's no change there. No change as it stands right now in terms of the exclusivity period and adding pediatric onto that. Any updates?
Peter S. Greenleaf:
No. And just to clarify that the pediatric trial work that we're doing was part of the original filing, but was not an extension body of work. So the July 2028 worst-case scenario is not inclusive of 6 months of pediatric exclusivity, Doug. No, no changes. We still have patents going all the way out to 2037. We still have our method of use patents, and we continue to do more work around both patents and other work in the company to ensure the longevity of LUPKYNIS. I would just reinforce that the longevity of this asset to us is paramount and it comes to defending the IP that we have around the compound, and it's a priority for the company. So we'll update you when we have more to talk about. But as you know, the legal process on ANDA filings and the subsequent patent infringement lawsuits is pretty protracted. So I wouldn't expect to hear weekly updates from us.
Douglas Miehm:
Okay. Second question just has to do with the buyback, and you're aggressive there. There's an obvious opportunity today. As we think about the future, though, given the amount that you're likely to spend on the R&D side being it's going to increase probably fairly materially, will we think that we could see scaled back buybacks as we think about beyond 2025? I'll leave it there.
Peter S. Greenleaf:
Doug, as we've said, it's up to the Board's discretion and as to how they deploy that cash. Obviously, management gives input to our belief as to what we should do. I wouldn't miss that LUPKYNIS continues to grow for us. And the cash flows we reported in this quarter, if you carry those forward and you carry forward continued growth of LUPKYNIS, the amount of cash flow from operations is -- becomes fairly significant. Now we're not giving long-term or even mid- to short-term guidance on cash flows, but you can do the math. And I think it gives us a very unique position as a biotech company in this space to pay our bills. We have cash on our balance sheet. We have cash flows from operations, so we can pay for the things we want to do, continuing to drive LUPKYNIS and developing our pipeline and we have the unique ability to either collect cash -- more cash on our balance sheet and grow that over time or deploy it towards buying back shares, which is positive for all shareholders. So while we're not giving anything for '26, and I don't disagree that, obviously, your R&D expenses go up as you move into further clinical trials, don't miss the fact that if LUPKYNIS, which we fully believe will continue to grow, grows, our cash flow from operations and our balance sheet are still very, very strong.
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