PFS (2024 - Q2)

Release Date: Jul 26, 2024

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Surprises

Net Loss Due to Merger Costs

$11.5 million

We reported a net loss of $11.5 million or $0.11 per share, reflecting the impact of merger related transaction costs.

Merger Related Charges

$86.9 million

Total charges related to our merger with Lakeland Bankcorp were $86.9 million in the current quarter, consisting of initial CECL provisions, transaction costs, and a loss on sale of Lakeland subordinated debt.

Net Interest Margin Increase

+34bps

3.21%

Overall, our net interest margin increased 34 basis points to 3.21%.

Provision for Credit Losses Increase

$4.5 million

The remaining provision for credit losses on loans and commitments to extend credit was also somewhat elevated at $4.5 million for the quarter despite strong asset quality and a stable economic forecast.

Beacon Trust New Business Growth

$168 million

For the first six months of 2024, Beacon produced $168 million in new business compared to $107 million for the same period last year.

Impact Quotes

We continue to build momentum and our team is well prepared for systems integration in September.

Excluding merger related charges, pre-tax, pre-provision earnings for the current quarter was $70.1 million or an annualized 1.47% of average assets.

Our strong credit quality metrics reflect the conservative underwriting culture and portfolio management standards.

We projected NIM in the 3.35% to 3.40% range for the remainder of 2024, increasing to around 3.45% over the course of 2025.

Early indication, on a macro level, I haven't heard anything negative. So most of it has been a positive response.

We are on track to achieve our targeted merger cost saves and project non-interest expenses of approximately $120 million for Q3 of 2024.

The executive teams and the senior management teams are working very well together and collaboratively. Cultures are fusing nicely.

Our newly combined balance sheet remains largely neutral. However, we expect little benefit on deposit costs from the first two rate cuts.

Key Insights:

  • Allowance for credit losses on loans was 1% of total loans, slightly up from 0.98% in the prior quarter.
  • Deposits increased to $18.4 billion, including $8.62 billion acquired from Lakeland, with organic deposits up $123 million excluding municipal and broker deposits.
  • Excluding merger expenses, earnings per diluted share would have been $0.44 for the quarter.
  • Net interest margin increased by 34 basis points to 3.21%, with the first full month as a combined company showing a margin of 3.38%.
  • Non-performing loan ratio was low at 36 basis points, with net charge-offs at an annualized 4 basis points of average loans.
  • Pre-tax pre-provision return on average assets improved to 1.47% from 1.28% in the prior quarter.
  • Provident Financial Services reported a net loss of $11.5 million or $0.11 per share for Q2, primarily due to merger-related transaction costs.
  • Tangible book value per share was $13.09 and tangible common equity ratio was 7.34%.
  • The Board approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.24 per share payable on August 30th.
  • Total charges related to the merger were $86.9 million, including CECL provisions, transaction costs, and a loss on sale of Lakeland subordinated debt.
  • Total revenue for the quarter was $163.8 million, reflecting 46 days as a combined company.
  • Capital ratios are expected to remain above regulatory minimums, with a Tier 1 leverage ratio target above 8.5% and total risk-based capital ratio above 11.25%.
  • Loan growth is expected to resume in the second half of 2024, with a target of 4% to 5% growth.
  • No broad-based stock buyback plans currently, but opportunistic buybacks may be considered based on capital formation.
  • Non-interest expenses are projected at approximately $120 million for Q3 2024, declining to about $107 million in Q4 after core systems conversion.
  • Operating expense ratio is expected to be approximately 1.75% with an efficiency ratio near 52% in 2025.
  • Provident anticipates achieving targeted merger cost savings of 35%, unchanged from the deal announcement.
  • Provident expects net interest margin to be between 3.35% and 3.4% in the upcoming quarter and around 3.45% over 2025, including purchase accounting accretion.
  • The company expects the commercial real estate loan ratio to decline naturally to about 470% by year-end.
  • The company projects 2025 return on average assets of approximately 1.1% and return on tangible equity of about 15%.
  • The effective tax rate for the remainder of 2024 is projected at approximately 29.5%.
  • Active management of the loan portfolio included letting runoff of over $100 million of loans with undesirable characteristics.
  • Beacon Trust produced $168 million in new business in the first half of 2024, up from $107 million last year.
  • Commercial lending closed approximately $307 million in new loans during Q2, with 54% in C&I lending.
  • Efforts to penetrate insurance and wealth management products into the legacy Lakeland customer base are underway.
  • Fee-based businesses performed well, with Provident Protection Plus growing 19% organically year-over-year and Beacon Trust assets under management increasing to $4.1 billion.
  • Provident completed the Provident Lakeland merger on May 16th and is preparing for systems integration in September.
  • The commercial lending pipeline increased to approximately $1.67 billion with a weighted average interest rate of 7.53%.
  • The company is focused on achieving merger synergies, integrating systems smoothly, and becoming the preeminent community bank in its market.
  • The merger expanded the customer base and enhanced product offerings, especially in insurance, wealth management, and treasury management.
  • Treasury management enhancements and SBA/ABL business expansion are key strategic priorities.
  • Management expects limited benefit from initial rate cuts but anticipates margin improvement with further rate reductions.
  • Management is focused on operational efficiencies and managing funding costs, including the impact of subordinated debt issuance.
  • Management is optimistic about the stability and improvement of net interest margin and loan growth prospects.
  • The company is on track to meet or exceed merger cost savings and maintain strong capital ratios.
  • The executive and senior management teams are collaborating well, with strong talent retention and robust new talent attraction.
  • Tom Lyons highlighted the impact of merger-related charges and the recalibration of credit loss models for the combined bank.
  • Tony Labozzetta emphasized the strong credit quality and conservative underwriting culture of the combined bank.
  • Tony noted positive customer response post-merger and early success in cross-selling products between legacy Provident and Lakeland customers.
  • Capital targets include maintaining Tier 1 leverage above 8.5% and total risk-based capital above 11.25%, with opportunistic stock buybacks considered.
  • Core net interest margin on a blended basis is expected around 2.70% to 2.75%, with purchase accounting accretion adding 65 to 75 basis points.
  • Cost synergies from the merger are expected to be fully realized by the end of 2024, with a $13 million reduction from Q3 to Q4.
  • Customer response to the merger has been positive, with increased referrals between commercial banking, insurance, and wealth management teams.
  • Customer sentiment is cautiously optimistic with a strong loan pipeline, though some growth was intentionally moderated during merger integration.
  • Loan growth drivers include pipeline pull-through, insurance penetration, treasury management, SBA, and ABL business expansion.
  • Municipal deposit flows typically return in early August, impacting reported deposit growth seasonally.
  • No active plans to sell commercial real estate loans; the CRE ratio is expected to decline naturally through accretion and portfolio management.
  • Revenue synergies are anticipated from deeper integration of insurance, wealth management, ABL, and treasury management services.
  • Talent retention is high with strong cultural integration and ongoing attraction of new talent.
  • Criticized and classified loans increased modestly but remain low at 2.6% of total loans.
  • Effective tax rate was impacted by merger charges, a 2.5% New Jersey transit fee surcharge, and deferred tax asset revaluation.
  • Net charge-offs were low at $1.3 million or 4 basis points annualized.
  • Non-interest income increased to $25 million, boosted by wealth management, insurance subsidiaries, and BOLI income.
  • Purchase accounting accretion contributed 47 basis points to net interest margin in the quarter and is expected to total about 65 basis points in 2025.
  • The allowance for credit losses was recalibrated due to new quantitative models developed for the combined bank.
  • The company issued $225 million of 9% subordinated notes in May, which was well subscribed and increased funding costs.
  • The company’s loans to deposits ratio decreased to 102% at quarter end.
  • Customer engagement post-merger is positive, with early cross-referrals indicating successful integration of product offerings.
  • Management is actively managing the loan portfolio to reduce risk and improve quality, including letting some loans runoff.
  • Management remains cautious but optimistic about macroeconomic conditions and their impact on loan growth and earnings.
  • Operational efficiencies and cost management remain a focus to improve expense ratios post-merger.
  • The combined balance sheet is largely neutral to interest rate risk, with limited benefit expected from initial rate cuts.
  • The company expects to maintain a strong capital buffer above regulatory minimums to support growth and potential buybacks.
  • The company is optimistic about achieving revenue growth through cross-selling and expanding treasury management and SBA offerings.
  • The merger integration is progressing well with systems integration planned for September and cultural fusion described as positive.
Complete Transcript:
PFS:2024 - Q2
Operator:
[Call Started Abruptly] I would now like to turn the call over to Adriano Duarte, Head of Investor Relations. Adriano. Please go ahead. Adriano
Adriano Duarte:
Thank you, Greg. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us for our Second Quarter Earnings Call. Today's presenters are President and CEO, Tony Labozzetta; and Senior Executive, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Lyons. Before beginning the review of our financial results, we ask that you please take note of our standard caution as to any forward-looking statements that may be made during the course of today's call. Our full disclaimer is contained in yesterday evening's earnings release, which has been posted to the Investor Relations page on our website, provident.bank. Now it's my pleasure to introduce Tony Labozzetta who will offer his perspective on the second quarter. Tony?
Tony Labozzetta:
Thank you, Adriano. Good morning, everyone. And welcome to the Provident Financial Services earnings call. Before we discuss our quarterly results, I am happy to note that as of the 16th of May, we closed the Provident Lakeland merger and officially welcomed the Lakeland team into Provident. We'd like to congratulate and thank our team members who have worked diligently to complete the merger. As we combine our banks and our cultures, we are excited by the opportunities to offer our expanded customer base access to our valuable products and services, especially those of our insurance, wealth management and treasury management businesses. We continue to build momentum and our team is well prepared for systems integration in September. Please bear in mind that our financial statements this quarter reflect combined results beginning on May 16th and include 1 time cost related to the merger transaction. Moving on to our quarterly results. The second quarter was characterized by steady economic growth, continued high interest rates and an environment of mixed results in the banking sector. Thanks to the efforts of the Provident team, now reinforced by talented members from the former Lakeland Bank, we continue to build our core businesses and maintain strong credit quality. We are on track to achieve our projected merger cost savings and we are well positioned for the future. As expected, we reported a net loss of $11.5 million or $0.11 per share, reflecting the impact of merger related transaction costs. If we were to exclude these expenses, earnings per diluted share would've been $0.44 for the quarter. We can see that our underlying performance remains strong as our pre-tax pre-provision return on average assets was 1.47% for the second quarter compared to 1.28% for the trailing quarter. While market conditions in the first half of the year constrained loan growth, our fundamentals remain strong and we expect to achieve our projected growth for the second half of the year. At quarter end, our capital is healthy and exceeded levels deemed to be well capitalized, especially following the issuance of a $225 million in subordinated notes on May 9th, which was well subscribed. As part of the merger, we committed to maintain a minimum of Tier 1 leverage ratio of 8.5% and a minimum total risk based capital ratio of 11.25%. At quarter end, we have exceeded these requirements with a Tier 1 leverage ratio of 9.36% and a total risk based capital ratio of 11.66%. Tangible book value per share was $13.09 and our tangible common equity ratio was 7.34%. As such, our Board of Directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.24 per share payable on August 30th. During the quarter, our total cost of deposits remained relatively low at 2.27%. Our total cost of funds, which was further impacted by the issuance of our subordinated debt, was 2.56%. Overall, our net interest margin increased 34 basis points to 3.21%. In our first full month as a combined company, our net interest margin was 3.38%, which exceeded our expectations. Moving forward, we are optimistic about the stability and improvement to our net interest margin and expect it to be between 3.35% and 3.4% in the upcoming quarter. Our commercial lending team closed approximately $307 million of new commercial loans during the second quarter. Of note, 54% of these new originations were part of our C&I lending business. Our ratio of commercial real estate loans to total capital was 477%. We project that by the end of the year, this ratio will be approximately 470%. Our credit quality was strong for the second quarter as evidenced by our non-performing loan ratio of only 36 basis points. The allowance for credit losses on loans represents 1% of total loans compared to 0.98% in the trailing quarter and 0.99% at the end of ‘23. Once again, I would like to express that our strong credit quality metrics reflect the conservative underwriting culture and portfolio management standards. We see improved activity in our combined commercial lending pipeline, which increased during the second quarter to approximately $1.67 billion. The weighted average interest rate is 7.53% compared to 7.42% in the trailing quarter. The pull through adjusted pipeline, including loans pending closing, is approximately $1 billion. We remain very optimistic regarding the quality of our pipeline. Our fee-based businesses perform very well. Despite the persistence of a hard insurance market, which has driven commercial insurance rates higher, Provident protection plus at a great second quarter with 19% organic growth as compared to the same quarter last year, and a retention rate of over 100%. Favorable market conditions help grow Beacon Trust assets under management to about $4.1 billion at quarter end, compared to $3.7 billion in the same quarter last year, which improved fee income 3.8% as compared to the trailing quarter. For the first six months of 2024, Beacon produced $168 million in new business compared to $107 million for the same period last year. We are pleased by the success of our fee-based businesses and are enthusiastic about the prospects of enhanced growth from our expanded customer base. As we move into the second half of 2024, as previously mentioned, our attention will be on completing all aspects of the merger, integrating our systems smoothly and becoming the preeminent community bank in our market. We expect to achieve synergies and deliver even more value to our customers, employees and stockholders. Now, I'll turn the call over to Tom for his comments on our financial performance. Tom?
Tom Lyons:
Thank you, Tony, and good morning, everyone. As Tony noted, we reported a net loss for the quarter of $11.5 million or $0.11 per share due to merger related activity. Total charges related to our merger with Lakeland Bankcorp were $86.9 million in the current quarter, consisting of initial CECL provisions on non-PCV acquired loans and commitments to extend credit of $65.2 million, transaction cost of $18.9 million and a $2.8 million loss realized on the sale of Lakeland subordinated debt from Provident investment portfolio prior to the merger. The remaining provision for credit losses on loans and commitments to extend credit was also somewhat elevated at $4.5 million for the quarter despite strong asset quality and a stable economic forecast. This increase in the organic provision for loan losses was due to the development of new quantitative models for the combined bank, which resulted in changes in projected loss factors for all loan segments. In addition, qualitative adjustment ranges were recalibrated in connection with the development of the new merged bank models. This brought our allowance coverage ratio to 1% of total loans. Excluding merger related charges. Pre-tax, pre-provision earnings for the current quarter was $70.1 million or an annualized 1.47% of average assets. Revenue increased to $163.8 million for the quarter, reflecting 46 days as a combined company and our net interest margin increased to 3.21%. For the quarter, the margin included 47 basis points of purchase accounting accretion. We projected NIM in the 3.35% to 3.40% range for the remainder of 2024, increasing to around 3.45% over the course of 2025. Our projections include two rate reductions in 2024 and another two rate cuts in 2025. Regarding interest rate risk, our newly combined balance sheet remains largely neutral. However, we expect little benefit on deposit costs from the first two rate cuts. We completed a successful regulatory capital raise through the issuance of $225 million of 9% subordinated debt in the quarter, which increased funding costs. However, the impact to the margin was partially offset by the sale of $550 million of securities acquired from Lakeland and the repayment of a similar amount of overnight borrowings and broker deposits. Excluding the $7.91 billion of acquired loans period end total loans were essentially flat for the quarter. Within the portfolio, C&I loans increased by $90 million and CRE loans decreased by $75 million. Our pull through adjusted loan pipeline at quarter end was $1 billion with a weighted average rate of 7.5% versus our current portfolio yield of 6.05%. Deposits increased to $18.4 billion at June 30th, including $8.62 billion acquired from Lakeland. Excluding municipal deposits that are subject to cyclical outflows and broker deposits, which were paid down with the proceeds of security sales, organic deposits increased $123 million for the quarter and our loans to deposits ratio decreased to 102%. Asset quality remains strong with non-performing loans declining to 36 basis points of total loans and total delinquencies declining to just 44 basis points of loans. Criticized and classified loans did increase modestly but remained relatively low at 2.6% of total loans. Net charge offs were just $1.3 million or an annualized 4 basis points of average loans this quarter. With strong asset quality and a stable economic outlook, we expect future provisions to be driven primarily by loan growth and expect the coverage ratio to rain at approximately 1%. Excluding the loss on security sales, non-interest income increased to $25 million this quarter, reflecting the Lakeland combination, strong performance from our wealth management insurance agency subsidiaries and an increase in BOLI income. As Tony noted, we are on track to achieve our targeted merger cost saves and project non-interest expenses of approximately $120 million for Q3 of 2024, declining to approximately $107 million in Q4 following our Labor Day core systems conversion. Our effective tax rate this quarter was impacted by several unusual items, including merger related charges, the imposition of a 2.5% New Jersey transit fee surcharge and the related revaluation of deferred tax assets. We currently project our effective tax rate for the remainder of 2024 to be approximately 29.5%. Regarding projected 2025 financial performance, we remain on track to meet or exceed our targeted total combined merger charges of $95 million and projected cost saves of 35%, unchanged from deal announcement. Our net interest [marks] -- acquisition totaled approximately $480 million and our core deposit intangible was 4.98% of core deposits excluding municipal deposits. We currently project a net interest margin of approximately 3.35% to 3.45% for the full year 2025, including approximately 65 basis points of purchase accounting accretion. With fully faced and cost saves, we estimate 2025 return on average assets of approximately 1.1% and return on tangible equity of approximately 15% with an operating expense ratio of approximately 1.75% and an efficiency ratio of approximately 52%. That concludes our prepared remarks. We'd be happy to respond to questions.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] And it looks like our first question today comes from the line of Mark Fitzgibbon from Piper Sandler.
Mark Fitzgibbon:
First, I wondered if you could give us a little more detail, Tom, on the timing of the cost synergies. I see you got about a $13 million difference from third to fourth quarter. Will all the cost synergies be in do you think by the end of this year?
Tom Lyons:
We do.
Mark Fitzgibbon:
And then in what areas do you see potential revenue synergies with Lakeland, and are there any sort of early surprises on the deal?
Tony Labozzetta:
Areas that we see revenue, obviously, are the things I mentioned in my notes, which are to try to get more integrated activity between our insurance, our wealth, enhance the ABL business that Lakeland has, more treasury management functions overlaid not only within Lakeland customer base but more broader. I think all of those are elements of -- that we could achieve some revenue enhancements, and also changing the funding mix to try to get back to at roughly 25% on noninterest bearing. I think those are activities that we're going to be looking to do, as well as grow our normal business.
Mark Fitzgibbon:
And since you marked all of Lakeland's loans, I guess I was curious if there's any plan to sort of sell CRE or office loans to maybe try to reduce that CRE concentration some more?
Tony Labozzetta:
I think at this time, Mark, there's not an active plan to sell off assets for our CRE ratio because the CRE ratio will come down naturally as we accrete the merger mark, and it will get to levels that are more satisfactory for us. I think what we're doing, I think, which is a good segue from your question, is we're actively managing the book. And so if you see why the loan growth this quarter was a little bit flat for the year, there's also some management in there, where roughly $100 million plus of loans have been managed out very, I would say, politely because of the fact that they had some characteristics that we didn't want to renew those loans. So it's an active management but there's nothing that says we have to sell because we have super high concentrations in office or any subsector. I would actually say, for the purpose of everyone on the call, when you subsegment our book, we're very comfortable that there's no individual concentrations that would require us to take some further action to reduce that.
Tom Lyons:
So to follow up on that. I mean we're very comfortable with our pre-lending practices, underwriting standards and the rest. So in those projections that we have for the CRE ratio being managed down to a lower level, it does still consider growth in the CRE portfolio of approximately 5% a year.
Tony Labozzetta:
Well said.
Mark Fitzgibbon:
And then lastly, I wondered if you could share with us if you had a target capital ratio in mind and maybe how you think at some point, maybe it's early next year, how you feel about stock buybacks?
Tom Lyons:
The nonstandard conditions to the merger mark required us at the bank level to keep a Tier 1 leverage ratio in excess of 8.5% and a total risk based capital ratio of 11.25%. So kind of use those as goalpost for now in terms of threshold levels. The targets obviously will be slightly above that so that we have appropriate trigger warnings in the event that we approach those limits.
Tony Labozzetta:
Yes, that's well said. You would think that with a little buffer on the upside.
Tom Lyons:
So the buyback thoughts would kind of play into that, Mark, just kind of based on our expectations around capital formation are strong. As Tony said, that's why we see the CRE ratio coming down naturally, something to consider opportunistically but no broad based plans in the current environment.
Operator:
And our next question comes from the line of Tim Switzer from KBW.
Tim Switzer:
We appreciate all of the forward guidance you guys provided, very helpful. Could you discuss some of the areas that can maybe drive some upside or downside? And then if any changes to the macro environment, if we enter a little bit slower economic cycle here, how that could potentially impact your earnings?
Tony Labozzetta:
I mean, I will start from the business side and then I'll let Tom jump in from a rate environment and what it does to our modeling. But the things that can really drive some good upside on revenue for -- it would be growth obviously in the loans, meaning our growth objectives for the rest of the year and with a complementary funding source. Penetrating our insurance business into the legacy Lakeland portfolio, I think it has a good upside impact for us and give some super growth in insurance as well as some of penetration of the Beacon space. I think from -- treasury management is a big thing for me because it gives us the balances required for some of that growth. So I think we're going to try to do that a little deeper as well as enhance our SBA and ABL business. And obviously, the things I didn't mention, but in terms of what could be a surprise on the rate side…
Tom Lyons:
As far as rates go, I mean, I think everybody assumes probably correctly that the next move is going to be down. As we talked about, the balance sheet is quite neutral at this point. We don't see us getting tremendous benefit from the first 50 basis points of rate cuts but we do see some enhancement to the margin beyond that level. In terms of overall business activity being slower, obviously, that would impede growth. We'd have to look even more closely at efficiencies, we do that as a matter of course anyway.
Tony Labozzetta:
Exactly. And we can look at some of the funding mix as some CDs run off and what our pricing strategy is around those, that could give us a little bit of a benefit as well. So it's not going to be one item, there's not one silver bullet, it’s going to be a number of management factors that play into us overachieving our expectations.
Tim Switzer:
And now that the deal has closed and you guys have been able to talk to some of the customers on both the consumer and commercial side, what has the response been overall? And are there any new products or services you're able to offer them that they've been more excited about?
Tony Labozzetta:
Early indication, on a macro level, I haven't heard anything negative. So most of it has been a positive response. Some of the things, when you look at at the commercial banking side, to date, we already have, if I'm quoting John Rath correctly, roughly 14 -- who's our Chief Lending Officer, roughly 14 to 16 referrals already from the commercial bank into the insurance group and we have a few referrals into the wealth group. So that activity has picked up and as those products are now expressed to the new customer base that they're available to them, as well as the treasury management enhancements. And from the Lakeland side, we're obviously trying to deepen the relationships into the SBA. Small business will play a big factor, which Lakeland had a sound platform on not only for expanding that but on the deposit gathering function. So I think generally, the excitement is there, internally and externally. Customers are now done with the malaise of the delay in the merger and we're talking business. And as long as we deliver a great experience, I think it's going to be exciting for us.
Operator:
And our next question comes from the line of Billy Young with RBC Capital Markets.
Billy Young:
First, I just want to echo the thanks on the deck and outlook this morning. It's extremely helpful. Just to follow a thread from the previous question, and maybe just to kind of expand on your thoughts on the trajectory of the core margin kind of moving forward. I think in the past, you've said the core kind of stabilizes at 2.85% to 2.90%, does that still hold as we're tracking a little below that today? And you mentioned kind of improving the CD and funding mix. But do you kind of see a big opportunity for kind of the loan back book repricing up to be an opportunity for margin expansion?
Tom Lyons:
I guess, I have to reset the core expectation a little bit because the 2.87% to 2.90% was Provident legacy stand-alone bank. If you remember, back in March, Lakeland's margin was 2.46% versus Provident's 2.87%. So on a blended basis, the core margin has come in, pre-purchase accounting marks. So if you view it that way, I'd say the core piece would be about 2.70% to 2.75%, purchase accounting adjustments of about 65 to 75 basis points a quarter, that's where we get in that 3.35% to 3.45% range over the course of the rest of this year through 2025.
Billy Young:
And the 65 basis points of accretion from here through the end of 2025, that's all scheduled accretion. Is that correct?
Tom Lyons:
Yes, I mean, a lot of it's level yield. So it could move a little bit with the cash flows, but that's our expectation.
Billy Young:
Just moving to a separate topic. Can you -- you mentioned kind of muni deposit flows had impact on reported growth this quarter. Can you just remind us of the timing of those flows, when does this typically flow back in?
Tom Lyons:
It goes with the real estate tax revenue largely. So we're starting to see the money come back in the beginning of August. So that's typical when we price it we consider that we have to fund the trough with short term overnight funding or weekly funding, it's all considered as part of the valuation of the profitability of the relationship.
Tony Labozzetta:
We're seeing that inflow start right now and it'll flow into the beginning of August.
Billy Young:
And then just my last question, just kind of more broadly, kind of I see a 4% to 5% in the back half of the year. Can you just maybe comment on kind of how you're feeling about customer activity and sentiment in recent weeks? Kind of how they're feeling, what are they concerned about? It seems a lot of your peers have kind of commented that they see growth kind of materially moving up in the back half, or are you kind of seeing similar sentiment?
Tony Labozzetta:
Well, I think, as I mentioned, our pipeline is pull through is about $1 billion. We're -- certainly, we're seeing some of the same things that our colleagues are seeing out in the industry. But we have an active pipeline. A lot of the growth reduction was -- some of it was contained by us, right? As we were getting our merger application done, a lot of folks are distracted, not that it's an excuse, into the portfolio management side and getting the CRE down, making sure that we had an understanding because of, obviously, the CRE overhang in the marketplace. So we did a lot of enhanced work, which took some of those distractions and we let some runoff, as I mentioned. But the activity and the quality of what's in our pipeline remains strong. And from the conversations I have with our team, we're not going to make up for the 4% in the first half of the year but we certainly can achieve 4% to 4-ish to 5% and what we expect if we can get these things pulled through on the pipeline. So the amount of volume is available to us to achieve that growth. It's just a matter of the teams getting it closed in the second half of the year. There is a possibility that some of this can run into the first quarter. But right now, we're not expecting that. I'm expecting that we can get that 4% in the second half of the year.
Operator:
And our final question today comes from the line of Manuel Navas from D.A. Davidson.
SharanjitCheema:
This is Sharanjit on for Manuel. I was wondering what is the current talent retention look like across the combined company?
Tony Labozzetta:
I think the talent retention across the company is exceptional. I think we -- there hasn't been any major surprises. You're always going to have one-offs for people advancing their career or moving something. But what I -- the way I would characterize this is that the executive teams and the senior management teams are working very well together and collaboratively. Cultures are fusing nicely. And as a byproduct of that, there is no subterfuge or an environment that's toxic. And people enjoy being here. I think our retention rates are really high. And more importantly or not more importantly, as importantly, our continued attraction of new talent is pretty robust. So I would -- I'm feeling really strong about the culture and our ability to attract and retain talent.
Operator:
And that concludes our Q&A session. So with that, I would like to turn the call back over to Tony Labozzetta for closing comments. Tony, the floor is yours.
Tony Labozzetta:
Great. Thank you, everyone, for your questions and for joining the call. We look forward to speaking to you all again next time. Have a great weekend and enjoy your summer. Thank you.
Operator:
And ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect.

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