ORRF (2025 - Q3)

Release Date: Oct 22, 2025

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Current Financial Performance

Orrstown Financial Q3 2025 Highlights

$1.13
Diluted EPS
$21.9M
Net Income
4.11%
Net Interest Margin
1.60%
Return on Assets

Key Financial Metrics

Profitability & Efficiency Ratios

15.7%
Return on Equity
20%
Return on Tangible Common Equity
56.4%
Efficiency Ratio
1.21%
Allowance Coverage Ratio
6.58%
Loan Yield
4.67%
Investment Portfolio Yield

Period Comparison Analysis

Net Interest Margin

4.11%
Current
Previous:4.07%
1% QoQ

Efficiency Ratio

56.4%
Current
Previous:58.7%
3.9% QoQ

Return on Assets

1.60%
Current
Previous:1.51%
6% QoQ

Return on Equity

15.7%
Current
Previous:15.12%
3.8% QoQ

Fee Income % of Revenue

20.8%
Current
Previous:21%
1% QoQ

Loan Growth (Annualized)

4.9%
Current
Previous:N/A

Earnings Performance & Analysis

Diluted EPS

$1.13

Strongest quarter on record

Normalized EPS Q2 2025

$1.04

Core Earnings Growth

Increased

QoQ from Q1 2025

Financial Health & Ratios

Total Loans

$3.93B

Commercial loans +2% annualized

Deposits

$17M increase in Q3 2025

Loan-to-Deposit Ratio

88%

Financial Guidance & Outlook

Loan Growth Guidance 2026

~5% annualized

Focus on CRE and C&I

NIM Outlook

4.0% to 4.15%

Potential slight contraction

Surprises

Record Diluted EPS

$1.13 per share

Diluted EPS of $1.13 was the strongest quarter of earnings on record for Orrstown.

Efficiency Ratio Improvement

56.4%

Efficiency ratio decreased from 60.3% to 56.4% quarter-to-quarter, reflecting expense control and operational efficiency.

Net Interest Margin Increase

4 basis points increase

4.11%

NIM increased slightly from 4.07% to 4.11% despite competitive pressures and rate environment.

Increase in Nonaccrual Loans

$26.2 million

Nonaccrual loans increased by $3.8 million primarily due to one commercial construction relationship.

Use of Brokered Deposits

$17 million deposit increase including brokered deposits

Brokered deposits were tapped for the first time in a while to build long-term core deposits.

Reduction in Net Unrealized Losses

$9 million decrease

Net unrealized losses on investment portfolio decreased by $9 million as market rates declined.

Impact Quotes

Our relationship banking model with high engagement and local decision-making differentiates us and allows us to meet client needs with speed and care.

We expect NIM to remain in the 4.0% to 4.15% range despite rate cuts, with competitive pricing and deposit cost management offsetting pressure.

The successful execution of last year's merger is evident in our financial performance and provides a strong foundation for future growth.

We proactively manage credit risk through portfolio adjustments, stress testing, and regular client engagement to protect credit quality.

Fee income remains a core strength, contributing nearly 21% of revenues, with wealth management and mortgage volumes increasing.

We have some CRE capacity and are expanding middle market talent to deliver a unique experience and drive loan growth.

Notable Topics Discussed

  • Orrstown proactively managed its CRE portfolio to reduce concentration and stress tested its C&I portfolio against tariffs, reflecting a strategic focus on risk mitigation.
  • The bank reevaluated lending relationships above $2 million, adjusting risk ratings and developing exit plans to safeguard credit quality.
  • Despite economic uncertainties, the bank maintained a conservative stance, with nominal net charge-offs and a decrease in classified loans by $1.7 million.
  • Most nonaccrual loans are current on payments, indicating cautious credit management and a conservative approach to credit classification.
  • The bank's relationship banking model emphasizes high engagement and local decision-making, which differentiates it in a competitive environment.
  • Orrstown attributes its record earnings and strong financial metrics to the successful execution of last year's merger with Codorus Valley.
  • The merger has contributed to a tangible book value recovery to premerger levels and a solid capital position.
  • Leadership highlighted that the integration has positively influenced key metrics such as return on assets and equity.
  • The bank's strategic flexibility and growth prospects are enhanced by the merger, providing a foundation for future expansion.
  • Management expressed confidence that the merger's benefits are reflected in the bank's current strong financial results.
  • Orrstown achieved 4.9% annualized loan growth in Q3, driven by strategic steps to align the acquired portfolio with its risk profile.
  • The bank has hired additional talent in the middle market segment to capitalize on growth opportunities and deliver a unique client experience.
  • The loan pipeline remains solid with approximately $224 million of new production in the quarter, indicating active growth efforts.
  • The bank is focusing on balancing growth with credit quality, especially in the context of economic uncertainties.
  • Management plans to maintain an early 5% loan growth target for the upcoming year, emphasizing middle market lending.
  • The bank's net interest margin increased slightly to 4.11%, with loan yields driven by new originations and purchase accounting accretion.
  • Management expects potential margin contraction with upcoming rate cuts but believes it can offset this through pricing and deposit cost management.
  • The bank redeemed $32.5 million of subordinated debt at a lower rate, reducing interest expense and enhancing capital flexibility.
  • The NIM is expected to remain in the 4.0% to 4.15% range, with some fluctuation depending on market conditions and competitive pricing.
  • The bank's asset sensitivity positions it to benefit from a steepening yield curve, which could offset margin pressures.
  • The bank increased deposits by $17 million in Q3, utilizing brokered options to build long-term core deposits.
  • Deposit costs declined slightly, and management is adjusting deposit rates to align more closely with market rates.
  • The bank maintains an 88% loan-to-deposit ratio, ensuring sufficient liquidity without heavy reliance on alternative funding sources.
  • The deposit strategy emphasizes balancing competitive pricing with cost control to support loan growth.
  • Management is actively managing deposit rates to mitigate margin compression from rate cuts.
  • The investment portfolio yield remains at the top of peer levels at 4.67%, reflecting strategic actions to optimize performance.
  • Unrealized losses decreased by $9 million as market rates declined, indicating effective portfolio management.
  • The duration of the investment portfolio slightly declined to $4.4 million, supporting liquidity and risk management.
  • The bank continues to take strategic actions to ensure the investment portfolio performs well in the current environment.
  • Yield management remains a key focus to support overall profitability amid changing interest rate conditions.
  • The redemption of $32.5 million of subordinated debt caused a temporary decline in risk-based capital ratios.
  • Despite this, the bank maintains a strong capital position with the ability to grow capital rapidly in the future.
  • Management expressed confidence in current capital adequacy and strategic flexibility.
  • The bank's capital ratios remain robust, supporting ongoing growth and risk management.
  • The focus remains on maintaining a solid capital base while executing growth strategies.
  • Noninterest expenses declined by $1.3 million from the previous quarter, reflecting ongoing cost control efforts.
  • The efficiency ratio improved to 56%, with a goal to reduce it below 55% in the future.
  • The bank has eliminated merger-related expenses but continues to incur some consulting costs that are expected to decline.
  • Expense management is a key focus to support profitability while investing in future growth.
  • Management anticipates a stable quarterly expense run rate around $36 million going forward.
  • Credit quality remains sound with nominal net charge-offs and a small provision for loan losses.
  • Classified loans decreased by $1.7 million, but nonaccrual loans increased mainly due to one large relationship.
  • Approximately 50% of nonaccrual loans are current on payments, indicating cautious credit classification.
  • The bank regularly evaluates its portfolio with third-party assessments to identify risks and mitigate potential losses.
  • Management remains focused on prudent growth and maintaining a strong allowance coverage ratio of 1.21%.
  • The bank is optimistic about future growth, leveraging its relationship banking model and talent in middle market segments.
  • Management expects to generate a normalized fee income run rate of $12.5 to $13 million per quarter.
  • The bank plans to continue balancing growth with credit quality amid economic uncertainties.
  • Loan growth is targeted at around 5% for the upcoming year, with a focus on strategic markets like Baltimore, Lancaster, and Harrisburg.
  • The bank is prepared to adapt to market conditions, including competitive pressures and interest rate fluctuations.

Key Insights:

  • Capital position remains strong despite subordinated debt redemption, providing strategic flexibility for growth.
  • Company plans to maintain strong credit quality and prudent growth amid economic uncertainties.
  • Deposit pricing adjustments made late in Q3 will impact Q4 deposit costs, aiming to align with market rates.
  • Expense run rate expected around $36 million per quarter, with some inflationary impact anticipated next year.
  • Management anticipates fee income to fluctuate but expects a normalized quarterly run rate between $12.5 million and $13 million.
  • Management expects loan growth around 5% for the next year, with a focus on middle market and CRE lending.
  • NIM guidance range is 4.0% to 4.15%, with potential slight contraction due to rate cuts and competitive pricing.
  • Continued investment in talent, especially in middle market lending, to support growth initiatives.
  • Enhanced relationship banking model with high client engagement and local decision-making to differentiate in competitive markets.
  • Implemented exit plans and risk rating adjustments for lending relationships above $2 million.
  • Managed investment portfolio actively to maintain top peer-level yield of 4.67% and reduce unrealized losses.
  • Proactively managed credit risk by reducing CRE concentration and stress testing C&I portfolio for tariff impacts.
  • Strategically adjusted deposit pricing and utilized brokered deposits to build long-term core funding.
  • Successfully integrated Codorus Valley merger, contributing to strong financial results.
  • CEO Tom Quinn emphasized the successful execution of last year's merger as a key driver of performance.
  • CFO Neelesh Kalani discussed balancing margin maintenance with competitive pressures and loan growth.
  • COO Adam Metz highlighted the importance of proactive credit risk management amid economic uncertainties.
  • Executives underscored the strategic flexibility afforded by a strong capital position.
  • Focus on maintaining efficiency while investing in future growth was reiterated by senior leaders.
  • Leadership stressed the strength of the relationship banking model in winning business and maintaining pricing.
  • Management remains cautious but optimistic about the economic environment and its impact on credit quality.
  • Competition varies by market, with Baltimore, Lancaster, and Harrisburg being key growth areas.
  • Deposit cost reductions and loan pricing adjustments are tools to mitigate margin compression from rate cuts.
  • Largest classified loans total about $20 million, spread across 2-3 credits including CRE and auto dealer.
  • Loan growth guidance of 5% next year with emphasis on middle market lending supported by new hires.
  • NIM expected to remain in 4.0% to 4.15% range despite potential Fed rate cuts, with competitive pricing as a key factor.
  • Nonaccrual loans increased slightly but about 50% remain current on payments, indicating conservative credit management.
  • Brokered deposits were used strategically for the first time in a while to support deposit growth.
  • Competitive landscape is intense on both loan and deposit pricing, varying by geography and relationship.
  • Economic uncertainties include tariffs, government shutdown, and Pennsylvania budget impasse affecting client conversations.
  • Market rates decline helped reduce net unrealized losses on investment portfolio by $9 million.
  • Purchase accounting accretion is declining, impacting margin but offset by loan growth and pricing.
  • Regulatory capital ratios declined due to subordinated debt redemption but remain strong overall.
  • Efficiency ratio target is to get below 55%, with current at 56.4% and expected to improve.
  • Loan portfolio now close to $4 billion with average yield of 6.58%.
  • Management uses regular stress testing and third-party evaluations to monitor portfolio risk.
  • Mortgage volumes are starting to increase, contributing to fee income growth.
  • Provision for credit losses remains small with nominal net charge-offs, reflecting sound credit quality.
  • Tangible common equity (TCE) grew to 8.8%, and tangible book value per share returned to premerger levels.
Complete Transcript:
ORRF:2025 - Q3
Operator:
Good morning. My name is Tiffany, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Orrstown Financial Services, Inc. Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Tom Quinn, President and Chief Executive Officer of Orrstown Financial Services, Inc. and Orrstown Bank, who will begin the conference. Mr. Quinn, please go ahead. Thomas Q
Thomas Quinn:
Thank you, Tiffany, and good morning. I'd like to thank everyone for participating in Orrstown's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call, both by telephone and through the webcast. If you have not read the earnings release we issued yesterday afternoon, you may access it along with the financial tables and schedules by going to our website, www.orrstown.com. Once there, you can click on the Investor Relations link and then on the Events and Presentation link. Also, before we start, I would like to mention that today's presentation may contain forward-looking information. Cautionary statements about the information are included in the earnings release, the investor presentation and our SEC filings. The presentation also includes non-GAAP financial measures as identified in the earnings release and the investor presentation. The appropriate reconciliations to GAAP are included in the appendices. Joining me today on the call are Orrstown Bank's Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Adam Metz; as well as Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Neil Kalani, our Chief Revenue Officer, Zach Khuri; Chief Risk Officer, Bob Coradi; and our Chief Credit Officer, Dave Chajkowski will also participate on the call. Our financial highlights for the quarter are summarized on Slide 3 of the deck, we delivered another quarter of excellent results. Loan growth was strong. In the third quarter, we achieved 4.9% annualized loan growth after taking some steps early in the year to align the acquired portfolio with our risk profile. We have seen good growth in the last 2 quarters. Net interest margin was 4.11% for the third quarter of '25 compared to 4.07% for the second quarter of '25. We believe that we are pricing loans prudently and managing funding costs well, which is evidenced by the stable margin. Fee income remained a core strength of the organization during the third quarter. Fee income as a percentage of operating revenue was 20.8%. The second consecutive quarter that this ratio was nearly 21%. Expenses continue to decline. Noninterest expense declined by $1.3 million compared to the prior quarter. Our efficiency ratio decreased from 60.3% to 56.4% quarter-to-quarter. All this translated into our strongest quarter of earnings on record with diluted EPS of $1.13. Our return on assets of 1.60% and a return on equity nearly 16%. We believe that our successful execution of last year's merger with Codorus Valley is evident in our financial performance. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Adam Metz for a discussion on our balance sheet. Adam?
Adam Metz:
Thank you, Tom. Good morning, everyone. We have previously discussed the steps that we've taken to proactively protect the bank's risk profile and position the bank to be successful in all economic scenarios. These steps seem particularly relevant given the credit concerns disclosed by other institutions last week. As a reminder, these steps included managing our CRE portfolio to reduce concentration, stress testing the C&I portfolio for the potential impact of tariffs, reviewing our TM platform for clients sending foreign wires and proactively discussing strategies with them. And reevaluated lending relationships above $2 million, adjusted risk ratings as deemed appropriate and presented some of them with exit plans. Our relationship banking model requires our sales teams to keep in touch close with our clients. We have regular conversations with our clients on a variety of topics recently, including tariffs, the government shutdown, the Pennsylvania budget impasse and general economic conditions, helping them navigate the evolving landscape and plan accordingly. After the first quarter, we indicated these steps had resulted in higher-than-expected reductions in loan balances, but express optimism that steps had taken to protect credit quality and lay a solid foundation for future growth. We believe that this solid foundation was reflected in our third quarter results. As Tom said, in the third quarter, we achieved 4.9% annualized loan growth. We continue to lean into our relationship banking model where high engagement and local decision-making differentiate us in the market and allow us to meet client needs with speed and care. Importantly, credit quality remains sound. Net charge-offs were again nominal in the quarter. Classified loans decreased by $1.7 million to $64.1 million at quarter end. Although nonaccrual loans increased by $3.8 million to $26.2 million at quarter end. Most of this increase was primarily related to 1 relationship within the commercial construction and development portfolio. We are mindful of some economic uncertainty and its potential impact on the overall business environment. We remain focused on credit quality and plan to continue to grow prudently. And we, along with an independent third party regularly evaluate our portfolio for new risk considerations. We view our capital position as an organizational strength which provides us with significant strategic flexibility for the future. We are well capitalized by all measures. Neil Kalani, our CFO, will now discuss our third quarter results in more detail. Neil?
Neelesh Kalani:
Thank you, Adam. Good morning, everyone. The third quarter was another successful quarter for us. We recorded $21.9 million of net income or $1.13 million in earnings per diluted share. This equates to a return on average assets of 1.6% return on average equity of 15.7% and return on average tangible common equity around 20%. All of these metrics place us near the top of our peer group and were achieved through multiple avenues. Looking at Slide 4. The margin increased by 4 basis points to 4.11% in the third quarter. Loan pricing on new originations and increased purchase accounting accretion drove loan yields higher, while the acceleration of $300,000 of debt issuance costs associated with the subordinated debt redemption increase the cost of funds a bit. On September 30, the company redeemed $32.5 million of subordinated net notes, which were at a rate of 7.72% for most of the second quarter. This action will reduce interest expense going forward while the company maintains its flexibility from a capital perspective. The other notable results from this quarter is the increase in loan interest to $66.0 million from $63.2 million in the second quarter. We placed a significant focus on generating the necessary growth to offset the impact of the reduction in purchase accounting accretion on loans over time and maintaining a margin near its current levels, being asset sensitive as rates come down, I do expect margins to contract competition remains heavy on both loan and deposit pricing, and that will certainly factor into our ability to maintain or increase the margin. Fee income is discussed on Slide 5. We saw an increase in noninterest income to $13.4 million in the third quarter from $12.9 million for the second quarter. This represents almost 21% of revenues. Swap fees were substantial at $800,000, service charges increased by $400,000 due to higher volumes and credit card incentives earned. Wealth Management continues to perform extremely well, and we're starting to see mortgage volumes increase. I would expect the normalized quarterly run rate to be in the $12.5 million to $13 million range going forward. The team continues to succeed in generating additional avenues in fee income, but it's going to fluctuate from quarter-to-quarter. On Slide 6, you can see that the noninterest expenses have declined by $1.3 million from the prior quarter. The key highlight here is that we no longer have merger-related expenses, the efficiency ratio decreased again to 56% with the continued goal of getting below 55%. The numbers still include the impact of additional third-party consulting services that are expected to continue but will decline over the next several periods. Considering the decline in expenses while continuing to invest in the bank's future, I would expect a quarterly run rate around $36 million going forward, plus some standard inflationary impact next year. Our credit quality is discussed on Slide 7. Once again, we recorded a small provision with a small amount of net charge-offs, our allowance coverage ratio was 1.21% at September 30, which we continue to believe adequately addresses the risk of loss in the loan portfolio. As Tom always says, and Adam just reiterated, we lead with risk. Therefore, we are cognizant of general industry concerns about credit and our proactive approach helps us properly assess our portfolio, identify risks and take any steps necessary to mitigate them. Slide 8 covers the positive trends in our key metrics for the past year. The growth in the earnings metrics noted in those charts speaks for itself. In addition, TCE has grown to 8.8%, and our tangible book value per share has returned to premerger levels with a strong buildup expected from here. Our loan portfolio is discussed on Slide 9. Both Tom and Adam covered our growth for the quarter, but we're now close to $4 billion in loans with an average yield of 6.58%. We had $224 million of loan production during the third quarter and continue to have a solid pipeline. Payoffs continue to have some impact on the loan growth during the third quarter. On Slide 10, deposits increased by $17 million. We tapped into some brokered options for the first time in a while as the team works on building long-term core deposits. The cost of deposits declined again by a couple of basis points in the third quarter. We adjusted deposit pricing downward later in the third quarter, and that impact is expected to be reflected in the fourth quarter. As I've discussed in the past, we held deposit rates higher than previously anticipated. We determined now with the appropriate time to start adjusting them to be more in line with market rates. The 88% loan-to-deposit ratio provides us with sufficient liquidity to fund our loan pipeline without placing a heavy reliance on alternative funding sources. Slide 11 highlights the performance of the investment portfolio, we continue to take strategic actions with the portfolio to ensure it performs well in the current environment. The yield of 4.67% remains at the top of peer levels. Net unrealized losses decreased by $9 million as market rates declined, and the duration declined slightly from the prior quarter to $4.4 million. Our regulatory capital ratios are addressed on Slide 12, and the total risk-based capital ratio did decline during the quarter as a result of the redemption of subordinated debt. But despite that, we feel good about our current capital position as well as our ability to grow capital rapidly in the future. I'd like to now turn the call back over to Adam Metz for his closing remarks. Adam?
Adam Metz:
Thank you, Neil. The numbers speak for themselves. We are proud of our quarterly results. As Tom said, we believe that our successful execution of last year's merger is evident in our financial performance. We are optimistic about the future, both in the short and long term. We would now like to open the call to questions. Before we get started, the operator will briefly review the instructions with you.
Operator:
[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Tim Switzer with KBW.
Timothy Switzer:
I have a follow-up on your -- Neil, your commentary regarding the NIM. I understand the asset sensitivity here and with the Fed rate cuts, probably expect to see some near-term pressure, how should we think about the trajectory of the downward movement, assuming we get maybe 1 or 2 more rate cuts over the next few months? And is there a good rule of thumb that all you guys have for how many basis points of the NIM each 25 basis point cut is?
Neelesh Kalani:
It's going to vary a little bit, but I put out there kind of the guidance I've given is the 4 to 5 -- 4.0% to 4.15% range. Obviously, the accretion fluctuates, so that's going to impact that. Down a couple of cuts, 225 basis point cuts isn't going to impact us substantially. What will impact is just competitive pricing, but where we -- if we consistently price loans where they're at, and we're able to continue to pull deposit costs down, we should be able to maintain where we're at through the next couple of cuts. But depending on where the market is and the push to generate new loans, we'll see where that pricing falls out. So that's more so a factor is the competitive side of things and continuing to grow the balance sheet and where the margin is going to end up. And we've taken with the sub debt reduction and some other things and some deposit reductions that we took recently we'll continue to look at. But my hope is that we maintain around here with again, purchase accounting being -- around here to like potentially like 5 basis points lower. So in that range with the potential that any accretion might have some positive or negative impact depending on the timing.
Timothy Switzer:
And your comments regarding the heavy competition on both loan and deposits. Are you able to provide any commentary around where that's coming from? Is it the larger competitors in your market, others closer to your size, are there any geographies or categories where it's a little bit more competitive?
Adam Metz:
I think it really depends on the market. as we talked about our growth markets, lean towards the Baltimore, Lancaster, Harrisburg markets and those competitors vary in those markets. And so I don't know that we see consistent but on any given relationship or any given opportunity, it does remain competitive.
Neelesh Kalani:
Tim, to add to what I just -- clarify what I just said. The other like just from a numbers perspective, as rates -- as the rates come down, we will have some negative impact to the margin, but it's the actions that we take going forward that can offset that. So there's a big focus on that from a pricing perspective. So we know the model just on a stand-alone basis with no -- on a static basis, is going to have the margin come down, but we can take steps to offset that.
Timothy Switzer:
That makes sense. And on the loan side of competition, do you have a sense for how much of that is being driven by maybe some competitors who had pulled back on CRE or other areas momentarily and now they're kind of reentering or is it just that maybe loan growth demand is a little bit more tepid and so there's just less of the pie?
Adam Metz:
Yes, I think we see a mix of that, Tim. But I would tell you that we have been able here Q4, to get the price that we sort of set to the markets. In fact, they've done better than that. And I think that's a tribute, as I said in my comments, I think it really is a tribute to our relationship model. We're very high touch, very engaged with our clients and our prospects, and it makes a difference.
Operator:
Your next question comes from the line of Gregory Zingone with Piper Sandler.
Gregory Zingone:
Just to go back to the NIM for a second. Do you have a spot NIM for September?
Neelesh Kalani:
It's in the low 4s.
Gregory Zingone:
Okay. And then pivoting to credit for a minute. Would you be able to provide some color on what those largest credits are in classified today?
Adam Metz:
Yes. the larger credits are -- there's some CRE. There's an auto dealer and a variety of other C&I credits.
Gregory Zingone:
Would you be able to pin down a dollar figure in terms of maybe like your top 1 or 2 credits in there?
Adam Metz:
The top couple of credits with total -- in classified total about $20 million.
Gregory Zingone:
And you said it's roughly probably 2 or 3 credits that make up that balance.
Adam Metz:
That's right.
Gregory Zingone:
Okay. And then since quarter end, are there any new updates with any of those balances that you can share with us today?
Adam Metz:
Well, I would tell you, the -- we talked about some of the movement into classified and there was an owner-occupied credit that we received, it was $1.3 million, and it had moved into non-- we have moved it to nonaccrual in the third quarter. Subsequently, we've received a pay down of just under $900,000 on that. So that just demonstrates, I think, that we're pretty conservative on our -- in our decisions to move credits into nonaccrual. And as another point worth noting on our nonaccrual balances is that approximately 50% of them are current for their monthly principal and interest payments.
Gregory Zingone:
Okay. Awesome. Last question for me, the early 5% loan guide for next year, do you have a lending focus in mind for how you want the mix to look like?
Adam Metz:
Yes. I mean like we've talked about, we feel like we have some CRE capacity. We were very proactive in addressing that premerger and immediately post-merger. But we've -- recently in the last quarter here, we've hired some additional talent on the C&I side, particularly in our middle market group. And so we have some opportunity there. We feel like we can deliver a unique experience in the middle market space. And we -- as I've said, talent wins, and I think we have some real talent there.
Operator:
Your next question comes from the line of David Long with Raymond James.
David Long:
Neil, you mentioned that you may see some NIM pressure with the rate cut but then you said that you can take some steps to offset such compression. What are -- what -- specifically, what are some of the tools that you have to help you avoid some NIM compression if that looks like we're going to see the rate cuts?
Neelesh Kalani:
It really comes from a pricing perspective. If we've got -- so we made some adjustments to the deposit costs, and we've been intentionally higher kind of coming out -- as I've talked about in the past, coming out of the system conversion and the merger just from a client perspective, we made a lot of sense to not push down on rates as quickly as others may have. So we have some capacity there to pull down and the new funding opportunities impacts that as well. But the other piece of it, again, it's -- again, the answer is really competitive driven. On the loan pricing side, we continue to price at the levels that we have been and then we should be able to maintain. But there's that balance of generating the growth and also kind of maintaining the margins. So we need to find that sweet spot. So if it makes sense for us as an organization to generate that growth, we may come down a little more on the margins. But a lot of -- again, it's market-driven, competitive driven.
David Long:
Sure. Got it. And then with that outlook, the $4 to $4.15 on the NIM, what are your assumptions on the shape of the curve over the next several quarters? And how much does that -- if we do see a flatter curve or an inverted curve, how much pressure could that put on the NIM versus your expectations?
Neelesh Kalani:
My modeling assumes existing -- our modeling assumes the existing curve, it's probably been -- I would expect it to flatten out a little bit over time. But again, we'll just -- we'll manage against that. That's part of the thought process and seeing some contraction there. But if longer-term rates do work their way back up, that will benefit us. So if we start to see some steepening and slope there, it will benefit us.
Operator:
That concludes the Q&A portion of the presentation. Mr. Quinn, I turn the call back over to you for concluding remarks.
Thomas Quinn:
Thank you, operator, and thank you all for participating today. As always, if we can clarify any of the items discussed on the call this morning or in our earnings release, please feel free to give us a call or contact us and I wish you all a wonderful day. Thank you. Bye now.
Operator:
This concludes the Orrstown's Financial Services, Inc. third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. You may disconnect your line at this time.

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