Operator:
Good morning, and welcome to the Industrial Logistics Properties Trust Fourth Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kevin Barry, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
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Kevin Barry:
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. With me on the call are ILPT’s Chief Executive Officer, John Murray; Chief Financial Officer, Rick Siedel; and Chief Operating Officer, Yael Duffy. In just a moment, they will provide details about our business and our performance for the fourth quarter of 2021, followed by a question-and-answer session with sell-side analysts. First, I would like to note that the recording and retransmission of today’s conference call is prohibited without the prior written consent of the company. Also note that today’s conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and other securities laws. These forward-looking statements are based on ILPT’s beliefs and expectations as of today, Wednesday, February 16, 2022, and actual results may differ materially from those that we project. The company undertakes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any revision to the forward-looking statements made in today’s conference call. Additional information concerning factors that could cause those differences is contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC, which can be accessed from our website, ilptreit.com or the SEC’s website. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward-looking statements. In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP numbers during this call, including normalized funds from operations or normalized FFO, adjusted EBITDA and cash-based net operating income or cash basis NOI. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP figures to net income and the components to calculate cash available for distribution, or CAD, are available in our supplemental operating and financial data package, which can also be found on our website. With that, I will now turn the call over to John.
John Murray:
Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the fourth quarter earnings call for Industrial Logistics Properties Trust. On today’s call, I’ll provide a summary of our performance for the fourth quarter to give an update on our planned acquisition of Monmouth Real Estate Investment Corporation. I’ll then turn the call over to Yael and Rick for additional color and ILPT’s leasing activity and financial results. We finished the year with strong leasing momentum and solid growth. During the quarter we entered new and renewal leases and completed rent resets for approximately 1.6 million square feet at weighted average rental rates that were over 15% higher than prior rental rates for the same space. Portfolio occupancy increased to 99.2% at year end. We achieve normalized FFO growth of 5% and same property cash basis NOI growth accelerated to 4.5%. In late December, we announced the sale of six recently acquired properties to a joint venture for an aggregate price to $206 million, representing a gain of $11 million and a cap rate below 5%. The six properties contained 2.5 million square feet of industrial space, and they have a weighted average remaining lease term of four years. With a sale a joint venture now owns 18 industrial properties in 12 states with a total of 11.7 million square feet of space. ILPT continues to own a 22% equity interest in joint venture, and we plan to place approximately $134 million of mortgage debt on these six properties. Upon completion of the related debt financing, ILPT’s total net proceeds from this joint venture transaction will be approximately $190 million. This illustrates the value of ILPT’s high quality industrial portfolio and also demonstrates the strength and growth potential of our relationships with strong institutional private capital partners. Our access to private sources of equity capital through our joint venture represents a compelling strategy for ILPT to raise equity capital and property level and asset value and enhance our balance sheet to support our growth priorities. Since the November announcement that ILPT agreed to acquire Monmouth for approximately $4 billion we’ve been focused on executing financing and integration plans so we are ready to successfully complete this accretive transaction. Level of initial joint venture equity capital assumed and newly placed secured debt to possible asset sales remains in line with a range as we have discussed since November. ILPT has a proven track record of successfully executing portfolio acquisitions and we’re confident that the depth of real estate operations and asset management expertise provided by our manager the RMR group will enable us to efficiently integrate the new assets into ILPT’s portfolio. Tomorrow Monmouth will have a shareholder meeting to vote on the proposed merger with ILPT. Assuming Monmouth shareholder approval, we expect to close the transaction later this month and remain very excited about the benefits of this acquisition for our company. It creates a stronger ILPT with enhanced scale, additional high quality in e-commerce focus mainland properties and increase tenant geographic diversity. We do not plan to provide greater detail on our financing of the Monmouth acquisition in advance of tomorrow shareholder vote. Assuming a positive vote, we expect to provide more specific details in the press release following the closing of the transaction later this month. Now I’ll turn the call over to Yael.
Yael Duffy:
Thanks, John. And good morning everyone. I’ll start with a brief overview of industry and market trends and provide an update on ILPT’s portfolio following the sale of six additional properties into a joint venture. From there I will summarize leasing activity for 2021 as well as the fourth quarter and look ahead to 2022 expiration. To end, I will provide an overview of the steps we are taking to integrate the Monmouth portfolio into ours. Consumer spending on retail goods both online and in stores is at historical levels. This in conjunction with the expansion of e-commerce and the shift in philosophy of inventory management from just in time to just in case has created an exceptional environment for the industrial sector. Demand continues to outpace supply with the lack of available space contributing to record low vacancy rates and increased acting rents. As of December 31, 2021 ILPT’s portfolio consisted of 288 warehouse and distribution properties in 31 states totaling approximately 34 million square feet. The portfolio achieved 99.2% occupancy representing a 20 basis point increase sequentially and an increase of 80 basis points compared to prior year. Our mainland portfolio includes 62 properties in 30 states totaling approximately 17.3 million square feet that are 100% leased. The balance of the portfolio is comprised of 16.7 million square feet of industrial land and properties in Hawaii. Occupancy in Hawaii was 98.3% at quarter end which represents 110 basis point improvement compared to the prior year. ILPT’s portfolio has a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately nine years anchored by tenants with strong business profiles and well recognized brands that will continue to benefit from the acceleration of e-commerce. ILPT’s top 25 tenants account for nearly half of our total annualized rental revenues and more than 70% of our revenues come from investment grade rated tenants or subsidiaries, or from our secure Hawaii land leases. On the mainland investment grade rated tenants are subsidiaries of investment grade rated parent entities account for half of ILPT’s revenues. During 2021, we entered 70 new and renewal leases for approximately 3.1 million square feet nearly three times the leasing volume was 2020. Rents were 14.1% higher than prior rent with an average lease term of 9.6 years and commitments for leasing capital and concessions of $0.35 per square foot per lease year. We also completed 10 rent leases for 462,000 square feet of land in Hawaii at rental rates that were approximately 33.2% higher than prior rental rates. In the fourth quarter, we completed 19 new and renewal leases totaling 1.2 million square feet, with an average lease term of 10.2 years and commitments for leasing capital of $0.28 per square foot per lease year. Of the $4.1 million spent on capital expenditures in the fourth quarter, approximately two thirds are attributable to tenant improvements and leasing conditions predominantly on the mainland. Additionally, we completed 336,000 square feet of rent resets with seven tenants that were 32.1% higher than prior rental rates. Overall, fourth quarter leasing totaled 1.6 million square feet and resulted in a 15.1% roll up over the prior year. We anticipate ILPT’s strong leasing momentum to continue into 2022 as we love to capitalize on strong market dynamics to achieve favorable lease terms. In 2022, 5.8% of total annualized revenue is rolling, mainly driven by Hawaii, where 9.8% of annualized revenue is up for renewal. Our leasing pipeline is strong and we are currently tracking 52 deals for approximately 5.5 million square feet, including 44 deals for 4.1 million square feet in Hawaii and eight deals for 1.4 million square feet on the mainland. We anticipate a near term conversion of 28% of our pipeline, given that roughly 1.5 million square feet of current activity is an advanced stages of negotiation or lease documentation. Turning now to the planned acquisition of Monmouth. Like ILPT’s existing portfolio, the Monmouth properties are ideally located near population centers and transportation hubs, with prominent access to airports, seaports, rail and interstate highways, which are all key components of the supply chain. Since the announcement of the merger, the RMR group has partnered with the Monmouth team to deepen our understanding of the properties and tenants. Additionally, Monmouth has provided introductions to its merchant builders, which will allow ILPT to expand on its developer relationships to provide for a seamless integration. As previously announced, we intend to finance a portion of the transaction through property dispositions. We have identified a portfolio Monmouth properties that are representative of the larger portfolio. Geographically diverse properties in markets experiencing robust demand growth, there are leads to a high quality tenant base. We have engaged a broker to aid in the sale of these properties and expect to be in the market by the end of the month and to close in mid 2022. In summary, we are encouraged by all we have accomplished in 2021 and look forward to ILPT’s continued growth in 2022. I’ll now turn the call over to Rick to provide details on this quarter financial results.
Rick Siedel:
Thanks, Yael. Good morning, everyone. Total portfolio same property cash basis, NOI for the fourth quarter increased 4.5% year-over-year, driven by a 10% increase in Hawaii, which was the result of new leasing activity combined with higher occupancy year-over-year. Fourth quarter normalized FFO was $31.7 million or $0.49 per share up 5% year-over-year. This increase reflects our same property performance, along with a year-over-year decrease of 15% in general and administrative expense, primarily driven by declines in our business management fees and share based compensation expense. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter came in at $42.2 million and we ended the quarter with debt to EBITDA of 4.8 times, which is approximately one turn lower on a sequential quarter basis. During the fourth quarter, we paid down our revolving credit facility with $160.5 million of net proceeds from the sale of six properties to the JV. As John mentioned earlier, we intend to play secured debt on these properties in the near future, which will result in additional proceeds to ILPT of approximately $30 million. ILPT ended the year with $597 million in total liquidity, including cash on hand of $29 million, and availability on our revolving credit facility of $568 million. During the quarter, we exercised our option to extend the maturity of our credit facility by six months, until June of 2022 to provide short-term flexibility as we weigh our financing options for the acquisition of Monmouth. Consistent with our previous disclosures, we currently expect to fund the transaction with a combination of joint venture equity, secured debt and a bridge loan facility. As Yael mentioned, we plan to undertake a property disposition program in order to reduce leverage following the closing of the transaction. In January, we declared our regular quarterly distribution shareholders of $0.33 per share, which represents an annualized dividend yield of approximately 6% of our current share price. Our dividend remains well covered at a normalized FFL payout ratio below 70%. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, please open a forum for questions.
Operator:
We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Our first question comes from Bryan Maher with B. Riley. You may now go ahead.
Bryan Maher:
Good morning and thank you. I know Yael you talked about the Monmouth transaction. And I don’t think he’s going to give materially more information than was in the Nov deck. But has there been any change kind of in the dollar amount or can you give us an idea or range of the dollar amount of assets being sold and I know you touched on it a little bit, but is there a specific property type or tenant that might be in that package that you’re going to go out to market?
Yael Duffy:
So I think our original estimates were 400 million to 1.3 billion. And so it is in the midpoint or so of that I would estimate at least for now. And it really is, the portfolio is really indicative of the greater Monmouth portfolio. So there will be some FedEx properties there, but also other properties as well that aren’t leased to FedEx.
Bryan Maher:
So from a modeling standpoint, to try and get a handle on what we’re looking after 2022 and 2023 suffice it to say, we should just kind of take a midpoint of 1.4 to 1.3 for our models, is that what you’re suggesting for now until you can provide more detail?
Rick Siedel:
Bryan this is Rick. I do think it’s important, we will once the vote goes through the transaction closes, there will be some SEC filing requirements. So we will be providing additional color. But I think if you go back to our November slide deck that kind of provided the ranges, I think our expectation right now is that the sales will probably be in the midpoint or so. The JV equity is probably towards the lower end for now, just as we work to get everything set up and closed. But I think the ranges we’ve provided are still pretty solid, and you can pry model accordingly. And we’ll try to get more information out as soon as we can.
Bryan Maher:
And shifting gears, and again, Yael you provided some information on the 2022 expectations 5.8 of revs rolling. Given the success that you had in 2021, specifically in the fourth quarter, does it seem to you like the increases in rents will be similar in 2022 to 2021? Or to be safe shall we model for a little bit less?
Yael Duffy:
I think it’ll be consistent with 2021.
Bryan Maher:
And then for Rick, on the credit facility that you extend it out to I guess it’s late June. Would you expect to upsize that and how are you thinking about what rates might look like, given the upward trajectory in the tenure?
Rick Siedel:
Sure, I think, again, I mean, we did the six month extension to kind of provide flexibility, obviously, the way we close the Monmouth transaction will have a big impact. There is a pretty likely scenario that we close with a portion of it on a bridge loan, and that bridge loan will take out our revolving credit facility as well just in the interest of making sure we’ve got all the collateral available for us. And then, I think when the bridge comes out, we’ll put a new recap credit facility in place in the future. So rates certainly have moved a little bit since over the last few months. But I think we’re still pretty comfortable with where we are based on indicative pricing. I think we’re probably in the low to mid threes on fixed rate and probably two to two and a quarter over sulphur on floating rate. So again, we think we’re pretty well positioned for this to get done.
Bryan Maher:
And just last for me. With net debt to EBITDA like 4.8 times at the end of the fourth quarter. With the Monmouth transaction what do you think that that peeks out to? And roughly when and what would be the goal of ILPT to kind of get it back down to?
Yael Duffy:
The peak is tougher to predict because it’ll depend on how much JV equity comes in and how many assets we sell. But I think looking towards the end of 2022 or into 2023, then we expect to be in that kind of six to eight times range.
Operator:
Our next question comes from Jason Idoine with RBC Capital Markets. You may now go ahead.
Jason Idoine:
Good morning, everyone. Just with the M&R deal, will the final capitalization structure of that deal be determined once it’s closed? So will those two things be announced in conjunction? And also is that capitalization? Is there a potential maybe to bring in another JV partner down the line? It sounds like you’re going to be coming in at the lower end of that range in the beginning.
John Murray:
I think just talking about the range, I guess that range is largely indicative of kind of one partner or multiple partners. And I think just in the interest of getting it closed, it’s probably, the easiest scenario is where we close it ourselves, and then bring in a partner later which we’ve clearly shown we can do. I think our preference is to start with a partner and we’re just trying to get everything lined up in order to do that. But we will be looking to provide more information on that as soon as it closes.
Rick Siedel:
I think we’ll issue a press release after the transaction closes, that will provide detail on how we initially financed it. And to the extent that there are changes expected soon after that, what those changes might be. And that’ll be before the end of the month.
Jason Idoine:
And then the contributions to the JV that you made during the quarter, it sounds like those were at a lower cap rate now. Obviously, the industrial space and cap rates have compressed quite a bit since the initial deal was struck. But just curious if you could give us some insight on how those valuations are determined, as we think about maybe potential future contributions to those?
Rick Siedel:
Sure. I guess I’ll just speak specifically to those properties. We have a good relationship with our existing joint venture partners and once we were awarded those transactions, and even maybe slightly before, we started talking with our partners about those acquisitions and we’re sharing our underwriting and they were interested in having the properties added to the joint venture. And the first two properties, we went down a path with a financing that for a variety of reasons, didn’t end up working out. And it’s sort of cost us six to nine months. And by that point, we had acquired the other four properties. And so rather than continue to try to finance them separately, we pull the six properties together and have been working on the financing which the debt financing is not yet in place, because of the passage of time, our partners agreed to even though initially, we discussed the pricing at the time, we were buying the property, so we’re going to contribute it to the properties to the joint venture at our acquisition cost. We did get a 2% increase in the value of the properties the first two properties because of the passage of time which I think reflects a good relationship we do have with our partners that they recognize the passage of time, and that even though the pace of the financing wasn’t necessarily an issue on their side. So long story short, we agreed to the pricing and agreed to these properties going into the joint venture at the time we’re making the acquisitions. And so the pricing was aside from the 2% increase on the initial to the pricing was the same to partners as it was for our purchase price.
Jason Idoine:
Got it. Okay, thank you.
Operator:
Our next question comes from Tom Catherwood with BTIG. You may now go ahead.
Thomas Catherwood:
Thanks and good morning, everyone. John, kind of sticking on that last question. We obviously, same thing jumped out to us that that did others roughly 10 basis points or so of cap rate compression over a hold period seemed a bit low compared to what happened last year in the industrial market. But if those prices were effectively agreed to when the transactions happened, it makes a little bit more sense to us I guess maybe more broadly as you think of either contributing or selling however you term it some of your existing assets into your joint venture. What is the valuation process that you go through? Do you have it set up with third parties that you have to agree to? Do you go out and market these on the open market as well? It just seems like in this specific transaction there would have been more value to sell these wholly on the open market then contribute them. So any kind of color on the broader valuation process on third-party would be helpful.
John Murray:
Sure, yes, I mean, a year sort of transpired between the time we acquired those first two properties and when we sold them, but we did agree on the pricing upfront. So in the spirit of being good partners, we got a slight increase but I understand your concern. We don’t have a specific formula that we’ve agreed to in the joint venture agreements with our partners. If we were to provide, if we were to consider contributing or selling into the joint venture properties that we acquired a couple of years ago or at some other time, than we would value them based on current market conditions. We’re in the market every day, evaluating transactions, and I think we have a pretty good pulse on what the market is for industrial properties in various markets with various attributes to the properties, including the tenant quality. And so I think that we know where the pricing should be, and we would offer the properties to the joint venture at that value. So, in this case we felt like we identified what that value was, and that’s what we were buying them at. And that’s when they agreed to add them to the venture. And that’s why the pricing was what it was. The fact that the financing, first time around proved challenging. It was a complication that’s kind of thrown everybody for a loop.
Thomas Catherwood:
Understood, thank you for the color, John. Just to make sure I understand are there any more assets that you’ve acquired recently, where you have a similar agreement on selling them into the joint venture at the purchase price that you have?
John Murray:
No, that’s just us.
Thomas Catherwood:
Got it. Thank you. Okay, maybe switching over to some of the leasing, obviously, saw more than 900,000 square feet of renewal activity in the mainland portfolio this quarter. When we look back to the end of 3Q you had, obviously, no expiration is less than 2021 and I think there is just a little more than 300,000 square feet left in 2022, which suggests that you were pulling forward kind of a big chunk of leasing whether it was from 23 or potentially even beyond which though you’ve done some kind of early renewals in the past, and this seemed like a much higher percentage. Is that a fair kind of assessment? And is that tenants coming to you? Or is that you try to take some risk off the table and just get renewables done early?
Yael Duffy:
Yes, so it’s really the mainland was predominantly one big lease for 645,000 square feet for property in Ohio. And this was a little bit of a unique situation where we knew the tenant was thinking to consolidate its locations to another facility out of state and so we proactively went to them and try to work out of lend and extend where we got seven years of additional lease term. So we got 10 years of term in totality. We didn’t give them any TI but we did tear up some rent and kind of incentivize them to stay at the building. So this is a little bit of a unique situation because a building that while industrial and has a very large component of office, which mostly in a residential area. So, it kind of didn’t check all of the boxes of the booming arm industrial market but I guess it's just to know if we excluded that deal from a specifics of quarter, roll up in the rents would 32% versus 15%. So, it did work, it was at a roll down given that we had to restructure the term but we’re still happy with the outcome because we just secure the tenants.
Tom Catherwood:
Understood. Thank you, for that Yael. And kind of last question for me. In Hawaii, it looks like you guys got some on the neighbourhood of 90,000 square feet of vacancy leasing done. That's obviously a more high touch portfolio. In the past you talked about how it's been a little bit slower given the downturns in tourism and a slow recovery from the pandemic. But it seems like between leasing did in 4Q and the pipeline that you mentioned in your prepared remarks, that that market has rebounded. Can you give us some kind of more colour on how demand is trending in that market and then kind of what that means as far as getting the renewals done when it comes to '22?
Yael Duffy:
Yes. So, I think we feel very good about our activity in for 2022 in our process. In general we the tenants in Hawaii are usually slower to respond and kind of wake of a kind of they have a month or two left to come to the table and get their deals finalized and we've really been seeing that they're nervous that especially they don’t have a renewal option that they're proactively coming to us and asking us to either provide them an expansion opportunity or to renew and really we haven’t had much pushback on the length and we've been able to continue to push for us. So, we feel pretty good that we'll be able achieve what we're aiming for. In 2022, we do have one vacancy 70,000 square feet that came back to us at the end of the year that we're actively marketing. So, we feel good.
Tom Catherwood:
Got it. Thanks, everyone.
Operator:
Our next question comes from Jamie Feldman with Bank of America. You may now go ahead.
Jamie Feldman:
That's great, thank you. I guess you're sticking with Hawaii. So, your outlook for rent recess in '22, is that pretty similar to what you saw in '21, can you comment on the market?
Jamie Feldman:
Yes? Okay.
Yael Duffy:
We've been achieving about 30%. So, we feel good, will continue that.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. And then, if you look at the same store stats of the fourth quarter, your Mainland was negative, Hawaii was positive. With that, is that due to the Ohio lease or is there something else going on there?
Rick Siedel:
Now, Jamie this is Rick. I would say the Mainland portfolio was really pretty flat, our operating cash NOI was slightly negative but it really comes down to one parking lot sale and straight job that exceeded the tenants reimbursable cap. So, if you were to take that out, we'd be slightly positive. So again, it's pretty steady as it goes in the Mainland but we do from time-to-time have either in Hawaii we could get a parcel back like Yael mentioned or we could have repair or something -- from time-to-time but overall the portfolio is really strong.
Jamie Feldman:
So, what would you say is like your normalized same store run rates for the Mainland?
Rick Siedel:
Alright. I think it's probably around a 0.5% to a 1%. We are in some long-term leases and as Yael mentioned in her prepared remarks, we've got a fairly long wall and some of the leases were acquired. So, the new deals that the team is doing have larger rent steps but considering where we are in some of the inflationary cost that are going through were probably looking at somewhat new to growth on the Mainland.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. Do you think 0.5% to 1% is kind of even in the next couple of years that's like a good number?
Rick Siedel:
I wouldn’t go multiple years, I'm really talking that next three to six months kind of thing but again portfolio's strong and our team is doing a great job managing the assets but from time-to-time things will come up and with the rent steps that are NOI while leases are not now isn’t up to offset some of the cost increases.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. What are your average bump for escalators?
Yael Duffy:
So, on the Mainland it's about 2% to 2.5% and then Hawaii 2.5% to 3.5%.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. So again, 2% to 2.5% you're saying the drag to get it down to past 1% is says occupancy loss and then non-reimbursable expenses that am I thinking about that right?
Yael Duffy:
We don’t have any occupancy rise at the moment on the Mainland but I think the way it works is we have some tenants that have a cap on their operating expenses. So, for example we can only charge back a $100,000 and of a project and so for doing a parking lot project. That's $500,000 the only portion that that's recoverable is a $100,000. And sometimes we try to push it back over multiple years but in some cases the leases don’t allow us to do that. So, that we could write there in reimbursement income.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. And is it the same store in Hawaii or that's just the Mainland issue?
Yael Duffy:
Yes. It's a Mainland issue, it's really the larger sophisticated tenants we're negotiating that into their leases.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. And do you think the Monmouth portfolio will be different in terms of what it means for your same store growth?
Yael Duffy:
I think that's the I mean we've looking at it and looked at all the leases. And so, I think it's similar to ILPT's existing portfolio where some tenants will be able to recover a 100%, some tenants pay all the operating and any of the capital themselves and some do the cap. So, I don’t think it should be a material change.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. So, it sounds like the key growth in the portfolio is still going to be coming from Hawaii on the long-term, just say from the structure.
Yael Duffy:
We see exceptional growth in Hawaii which I think is hard to me or anywhere else but in Hawaii.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. And then, I guess just thinking about the JV. Do you think those will be time right when the deal closes or wouldn’t be the lag before you can get those done?
John Murray:
On the, I'm sorry, on the sale?
Jamie Feldman:
Yes, the asset sales from Monmouth.
John Murray:
I think that’s going to happen reasonably quickly. We'll launch the sales sort of simultaneously with the shareholder vote and it's a very took the time to be in the market with Industrial Property. So, won't be a very long marketing period typically in today's transaction market, diligence starts when you get an access agreement within a day or so being awarded a transaction. So, the timing from the awarded transaction and closing is maybe 45 days. So, I think sometime around the end of the second quarter probably the asset sales will be completed.
Jamie Feldman:
And you're saying the asset sale and the joint ventures in schedule?
John Murray:
No. I'm talking about the asset sales that we're contemplating in connection with the Monmouth transaction. The joint venture is where our preference you know we're not there yet. Our preference would be to close into the joint venture but to see how the timing works whether we close on the bridge and then have this joint venture financing or if we're able to get all reduction of rails that we can close into the joint venture. So, the joint venture will be set up very soon. We'll provide more colour on that by the end of the month.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. And is it the -- okay. And then, so the essay you guys been provided, so just to be clear, is that after those shareholder vote but before the closing or that'll be after the closing?
John Murray:
After the closing.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. Then you put out then you some of the SEC filing that has more of the data?
John Murray:
I think the plan would be to issue a press release, probably the business day after the close and I would we would tell people how we got it done.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. And no communication really on structure or anything between the shareholders vote in the closing?
Yael Duffy:
It's only five days, business days. So, it's a pretty short winter.
Jamie Feldman:
Yes, that's a great point. Thank you. Okay. And then last question from me, the joint venture partners, I mean are these already active and existing joint ventures or do you think it'll be a new group?
John Murray:
We'll tell you shortly.
Jamie Feldman:
Okay. Alright, thanks for the colour. I appreciate it.
Yael Duffy:
Thanks, Jamie.
Operator:
This concludes your question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to John Murray, President and CEO for any closing remarks.
John Murray:
Thank you very much for joining us today.
Operator:
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.